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nevadaesh Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2013 Posts: 214
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:04 pm Post subject: 1.9l engine removal questions |
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A little history - old enough to have owned 4 splitty's in the 60's and was versed enough to be able to drop engines in less than an hour, more like 30 minutes. BUT that was 50 (50? can't believe it's that long) years ago and they were air cooled.
So to today, I had super pressure in the coolant system and blew a hose so I am removing the engine (everyone says it's easier to work on them) to reseal the head, hoping that is the issue.
I am following the Bentley and I am in the middle of disconnecting various wires, pieces, etc. for removing my engine. I am at the point where the misc. stuff is out of the way. Here is where it gets confusing. The Bentley (10.(why does it show an emoticon? It suppose to be an eight) says nothing about removing the rear sheet metal cover plate as shown on 13.32. And with this pic:
there is no way the engine can be dropped down without taking it off. Also it doesn't mention anything about removing the oil filler tube or dip stick tube. Those are both sticking way to the rear to hamper removing the engine, either lowering or raising it.
I have spent hours searching and reading threads for the answers to the above questions and nothing. I see pics such as found in this thread:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=602411&highlight=boston+bob that shows the oil filler tube and dip stick still on (see pics at bottom of thread). No mention about the rear sheet metal cover.
I've spent those hours looking for a definitive thread about the complete removal process of an engine but nothing. Ben's Place doesn't show the complete picture either.
I have the time, retired, to work on this thing all day, everyday, but right now I just want to tow it to a shop and let them do the work. No I don't want to, I want to do it myself but the lack of info in the Bentley and me, I think, not knowing how to best search TheSamba is very frustrating.
Any help with the above questions and links would be greatly appreciated. If I complete this myself, I will do a write up showing all the things that isn't shown in the Bentley.
I always feel I am missing something that is right in front of me and if I am I won't mind the flames that I may get. Thanks, _________________ '85 Westy
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EL31415 Samba Member
Joined: December 13, 2009 Posts: 192 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32632 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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countrybicycle Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2012 Posts: 55 Location: Birmingham, AL
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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You don't have to take that rear heat shield, the dipstick tube, oil filler tube, any of the exhaust components or even the expansion tank. It all comes out as a unit. Drop the trans with the motor too.
We made this hoist from a boat trailer winch purchased from Harbor Freight for $30...
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9810 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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djkeev wrote: |
...Also support your transaxle for the engine is the rear transaxle mount... |
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kirkvw72 Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2006 Posts: 272 Location: Hoffman Estates, Illinois
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hydraulic lift table was perfect to drop the motor. With the trans still in, and the exhaust shield still on, it is a tight squeeze.
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t3 kopf Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2012 Posts: 1115 Location: over by 'der
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: 1.9l engine removal questions |
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nevadaesh wrote: |
Here is where it gets confusing. The Bentley (10.(why does it show an emoticon? It suppose to be an eight) says nothing about removing the rear sheet metal cover plate as shown on 13.32. And with this pic: |
Dont get ahead of yourself. check figure 10-942 on pg 10.9. "remove bolts, do not remove plate 3"... _________________ '90 Carat w/ '95 phase 1 EJ22 OBD2 conversion |
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nevadaesh Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2013 Posts: 214
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:47 am Post subject: Re: 1.9l engine removal questions |
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Dont get ahead of yourself. check figure 10-942 on pg 10.9. "remove bolts, do not remove plate 3"... [/quote]
That's exactly where I started second guessing this whole removal thing, thanks.
Thanks others for the pics, became crystal clear when I saw them. _________________ '85 Westy
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reevesme Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2011 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:23 am Post subject: Re: 1.9l engine removal questions |
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Nice hack with the boat winch. It worked nicely for me too. Thanks
Also, can anyone tell me the name of this plug and where I can get one? It fell off my engine and I now have a credit card (ironic) glued over the hole!
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:19 am Post subject: Re: 1.9l engine removal questions |
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The hole is for accessing the flex plate to torque convertor bolts if you have an automatic tranny. No clue on the name for the plug. Maybe try West Coast Metric or Wolfburg West. |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1.9l engine removal questions |
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Replaced mine with an electric panel "knockout" plug...don't remember if it was 1" or 1-1/4"...
...buy both & still get change from $1...
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
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