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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:43 am    Post subject: Shoebox DigiTool Reply with quote

How do i go about getting my hands on one of these? I am having some issues i can not seem to resolve and i believe this troubleshooting tool would be very helpful.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All i can find on their website is a kit to do soldering work. I have those items already.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_1628_810/8691-shop-ecu-monitor-system.html
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A. Thanks you.
B. Holy moly that is a lot more than i though it would go for.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A. Thanks you.
B. Holy moly that is a lot more than i though it would go for.


Yea, but 4 hours in a shop with someone guessing and throwing parts at a problem and it pays for itself.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tool isn't that much by itself.

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van_1425516639784/page_820_567/8691-ecu-electrical-diagnosis-tool.html

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazyvwvanman wrote:
The tool isn't that much by itself.

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van_1425516639784/page_820_567/8691-ecu-electrical-diagnosis-tool.html

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A. Thanks you.
B. Holy moly that is a lot more than i though it would go for.


Yes, but you have to have an ECU that is wired for it. You can wire your ECU yourself and save some money, but I would rather pay the money and have it done by an experienced person. Van Cafe and Jim Schumacher stand behind their work!

When I first bought the kit my ECU, itself, was the problem and their wired ECU solved the problem. In the years since then I have used it to diagnose other Digifant problems in my Vanagons. The instructions and explanation of the Digifant system are excellent and are worth the reading just by themselves. If you have Vanagon friends you can help them diagnose problems they have.

I threw a lot of parts at my problem before buying the kit, money wasted.
I bought the kit, money well spent.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worth every penny Exclamation

You will agree after using it the first time.
Such a time saver, no more guessing or throwing money at parts you don't need.

You can build one yourself with parts from Radio Shack.
You are paying for the ease of plugging it in and diagnosing.

I highly recommend using a D series ECU with the DigiTool.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hope any serious owner would already have a spare tested working ECU. They don't die very often but they can and sometimes do die suddenly and without warning. Having one on-board means a quick self rescue. I like to have the spare ECU be the one with the diagnostic tool connector.

I have the tool and spare ECU in all 3 of my waterboxer vans.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have the tool and spare ECU in all 3 of my waterboxer vans.

Mark


Me too.
If you want reliability, a DigiTool, fuel pressure gauge and oil pressure gauge will cover most issues.

Mark's bypass harness is a good idea to have with you as well.
Search bypass harness and build one.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in between my last post and this one i have purchased one. I have been throwing money at the van (parts that should have been replaced anyways) to resolve my issue. Ill find out whats going on when it arrives. Once again thank you for the help.

While i have learned A LOT that i didn't know before it will be nice to get a real diagnostic tool in my hands.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It saved me a ton of money I'm sure of it. I was lucky and the previous owner supplied it with the van.

The tool told me the system was losing power on the circuits in general. Every other component was working as it should according to the readings.

Solution ? The damn harness bend under the rear seat had a break in the wiring. I flipped around the ECU and been driving it ever since without a miss (until it gets a permanent fix).

I am confident I would have thrown tons of money into swapping parts if I didn't have the tool and still been frustrated as hell....
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazyvwvanman wrote:
...I have the tool and spare ECU in all 3 of my waterboxer vans. Mark


I have the wired ECU and the OG ECU in both of my Vanagons. I carry the tool as part of the spare parts and tools.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the kit I bought does not have a wired ECU. Will I be able to continue to use my ECU for normal use afterwards?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gunldesnapper wrote:
I believe the kit I bought does not have a wired ECU. Will I be able to continue to use my ECU for normal use afterwards?


The ECU must be wired for use with the digitool. The wired ECU will work in the vehicle without the tool. The OG ECU should work in the vehicle without the digitool. If the vehicle operates with the wired ECU, but not with the OG ECU, then the OG ECU is bad. If you bought the kit you should have the digitool and an ECU wired for the digitool. You will probably end up with two working ECU's, one wired and one OG. That's not a bad thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tom. I am buying from a third party, I am not sure the ECU is included with the rest of the kit.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mark's bypass harness is a good idea to have with you as well.
Search bypass harness and build one.


Can you elaborate on this "bypass harness"? Or provide a link?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mark's bypass harness is a good idea to have with you as well.
Search bypass harness and build one.


Can you elaborate on this "bypass harness"? Or provide a link?

Thanks.


Indeed:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349429
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gunldesnapper wrote:
Thanks Tom. I am buying from a third party, I am not sure the ECU is included with the rest of the kit.


If not, you can buy a wired ECU from Van Cafe

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