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houseofboyd
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| glutamodo wrote: |
That is still actually a 4 terminal flasher - it just doesn't have a dedicated terminal for 31(ground) - it is grounded via its mounting to the cowling support, without that ground it won't work. (VW went with dedicated ground points starting for model year 1969)
But yours did work with the heavier load of 4 bulbs, but not with just two. And you've confirmed that the actual lights outside the car are also not flashing? |
No, all the lights work...outside lights, front and rear work with the turn signal and emergency flasher....only thing that doesn't work is the directional light in the speedo when I use the turn signals..it flashes once, then no more...if I turn on the emergency lights, the directional light in the speedo flashes as it should....as do all the outside lights....
So I'm still assuming that this is the replacement I should get..
http://www.jbugs.com/product/211953215C.html?Category_Code=vw-bug-switches-flashers-relays-1968-70
Or does anybody recommend something else?
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glutamodo 
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| Good - I was going to re-suggest that but you got there first. This is not the first time that someone has done this to get around this issue. |
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KdFMotors
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Piggybacking Kontrollblinker on 49a didn't work for me. (Four-prong SWF relay on my '71 Bug, which would light the bulbs but not flash.)
Neither did cleaning up the corroded points with 2000-grit paper. The big coil just stayed energized, the points closed, the lights on, no interrupt, no flash. Somebody needs to diagnose this circuit. All components look fine.
Anyway, I hooked up a later Hella 3-prong, metal-case relay, pigggybacked Kontroll to 49a, and that works fine. |
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glutamodo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Is This My Turn Signal Relay |
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I'm at a loss to explain why moving the Kbl wire to 49a would not work. That is how VW did it from 1963-65 and from 1971 onward (non-Supers got the 3-terminal flasher in mid April 1971)
When VW made that first change during 1963 they even issued directions stating how to use the revised flasher in older cars... (back then the terminals were "K" and "S" instead of kBl and 49a)
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Is This My Turn Signal Relay |
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| glutamodo wrote: |
I'm at a loss to explain why moving the Kbl wire to 49a would not work. That is how VW did it from 1963-65 and from 1971 onward (non-Supers got the 3-terminal flasher in mid April 1971)
When VW made that first change during 1963 they even issued directions stating how to use the revised flasher in older cars... (back then the terminals were "K" and "S" instead of kBl and 49a)
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Hey, apologize for the late reply. I think what happened here was simply a flasher that lost whatever part of the cicuitry that controls current to the main coil. No on-off current to this electromagnet, no points close and open, no flash.
I might have contributed to the flasher's demise. For years after I got the car, the kontrollblinker part would mostly fail to light the bulb in the speedometer. I always intended to open the flasher up and clean up the points, but of course never got round to it. Did the absence of kontrollblinker load finally fry the input/output circuit of the main flasher? Just ignorant speculation, till we find someone to analyze the works of these transistorized flashers.
In other words, your piggyback fix will probably still work in many cases. |
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