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thasty07 Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2014 Posts: 310 Location: Bend, OR
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Bostig RG4 and RG5 Install Groups |
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insyncro wrote: |
BTW, aftermarket billet TBs are smooth as silk. |
And sexy looking! |
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bostig Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2006 Posts: 235
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Bostig RG4 and RG5 Install Groups |
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Bassyaks wrote: |
I purchased a motor which was stored indoors for maybe 13 years, and it was said to have 4000 miles on it. After completion the engine fired up immediately and idled great. After about 600 miles I took a compression test, 3 cylinders were 180-185 and 1 was 45 psi. with 80% leakage. |
Lest anyone think it came from the yard in this condition, and couldn't have worked trouble free for many miles, the engine (according to Bassyaks) was free revved to the limiter after it popped out of gear on the highway during wide open throttle. Free revving an engine is one of the worst things you can do for those that aren't familiar. Compression before was 185 across the board.
I have no idea why he wouldn't mention this, as it's completely relevant, and it makes it sound like the engines are at higher risk of showing up in poor condition than they are. The chances of sourcing a zetec with a problem in the long block site unseen from a yard still stands at less than .5% across more than 500. A GW rebuild has a 5% chance of failure for comparison. Subaru's are also much higher, but nobody with that data is likely to publish it, which is why I'd like to simply stick my money where my mouth is to demonstrate the reality of the situation.
.5% chance is the number to know. Which is why Bostig is going to be warrantying site unseen engines sourced by end users to 50K. This engine will be the first warranty coverage, even though it was accidentally abused to generate the failure.
I challenge the other conversion vendors out there to warranty their customer's site unseen engines as well I suspect they will not follow suit. So even though we don't have all the numbers we'd like for failure rates of Subaru based conversions, the proof is in the pudding as it were.
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Jim Akiba |
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ledogboy Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 578 Location: Scappoose, OR / Oakland, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Bostig RG4 and RG5 Install Groups |
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And that statement, Jim, is why I was really bummed that the Bostig conversion wasn't an option for me in CA. Kudos, sir! _________________ 1986 Westy Weekender
Now a full camper
1.8t Syncro conversion
Some people call him Maurice... |
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Bassyaks Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2010 Posts: 1137 Location: S.E. Connetitcut
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Bostig RG4 and RG5 Install Groups |
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This is unheard of, I asked Jim if he was serious and he informed me that he was. I was speechless, this attests to Bostigs commitment to stand behind Their product.
I'm going start shopping for another motor, with a couple of good leads already, but would really like to stumble across a factory long block.
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CampWesty Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2012 Posts: 70 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Bostig RG4 and RG5 Install Groups |
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bostig wrote: |
Bassyaks wrote: |
I purchased a motor which was stored indoors for maybe 13 years, and it was said to have 4000 miles on it. After completion the engine fired up immediately and idled great. After about 600 miles I took a compression test, 3 cylinders were 180-185 and 1 was 45 psi. with 80% leakage. |
Lest anyone think it came from the yard in this condition, and couldn't have worked trouble free for many miles, the engine (according to Bassyaks) was free revved to the limiter after it popped out of gear on the highway during wide open throttle. Free revving an engine is one of the worst things you can do for those that aren't familiar. Compression before was 185 across the board.
I have no idea why he wouldn't mention this, as it's completely relevant, and it makes it sound like the engines are at higher risk of showing up in poor condition than they are. The chances of sourcing a zetec with a problem in the long block site unseen from a yard still stands at less than .5% across more than 500. A GW rebuild has a 5% chance of failure for comparison. Subaru's are also much higher, but nobody with that data is likely to publish it, which is why I'd like to simply stick my money where my mouth is to demonstrate the reality of the situation.
.5% chance is the number to know. Which is why Bostig is going to be warrantying site unseen engines sourced by end users to 50K. This engine will be the first warranty coverage, even though it was accidentally abused to generate the failure.
I challenge the other conversion vendors out there to warranty their customer's site unseen engines as well I suspect they will not follow suit. So even though we don't have all the numbers we'd like for failure rates of Subaru based conversions, the proof is in the pudding as it were.
Cheers,
Jim Akiba |
Wow. As if I needed any more reasons to confirm my choice. This is amazing. _________________ Eric
1985 Wolfsburg Westy Weekender, Bostig RG5
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Bostig RG4 and RG5 Install Groups |
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I highly doubt any Subaru conversion vendors will follow suit.
Bostig Baby |
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