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outrun1984 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2010 Posts: 267 Location: Rutland, VT
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:56 pm Post subject: Spark Plug Wires |
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I know this has been discussed before...but seriously in short form who makes the best spark plug wires for our beloved bus these days? Time for new ones. _________________ 1979 Westy, Mexico Beige, 2.0 FI, Petronix, KYLE Fuel Injection Harness upgrade.
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curtis4085 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2011 Posts: 4806 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Bosch(good) PVL(good/ok) _________________ Special Thanks to:
Headflow Masters - Vista, CA
www.headflowmasters.com |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16961 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Just buy the Bosch. $55 at autohausaz I think _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
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Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
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Fokker F28/F100
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VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
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outrun1984 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2010 Posts: 267 Location: Rutland, VT
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds good....Bus Depot sells some set they claim to be a better build than the Bosch which they claim is all Mexico made....
http://www.busdepot.com/021998031a _________________ 1979 Westy, Mexico Beige, 2.0 FI, Petronix, KYLE Fuel Injection Harness upgrade.
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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outrun1984 wrote: |
Sounds good....Bus Depot sells some set they claim to be a better build than the Bosch which they claim is all Mexico made....
http://www.busdepot.com/021998031a |
Oh, you don't want the best of the best of the best.
I purchased a set of the above
Mnfd. correct
materials where good
fit was good
I would buy them again.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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the connectors on the bosch are fragile and thin compared to the other set BusDepot sells. The bosch, while excellent cables also have very soft insulation. If you try to gentle push it into an old plastic retainer it may tear. I ruined a new set this way then had to play go fish for one of the connectors that broke in 2 pieces when a button on my shirt snagged a wire. While my fault, it was sure a surprise when brushing a wire breaks the end of a connector and I have to pull the motor and tear the tin apart to get the piece out that fell down into the fins. The other model from Bus Depot has much better connectors - also the seals for the air shroud fit better than the bosch. The bosch ones barely covered the holes and were so thin they kept falling inside creating a leak unless they were ultra-carefully positioned. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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udidwht Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2005 Posts: 3779 Location: Seattle, WA./ HB, Ca./ Shizuoka, Japan
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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NGK _________________ 1972 Westy Hardtop/Type-4 2056cc
96mm Biral AA P/C's~7.8:1CR
Headflow Masters New AMC 42x36mm heads w/Porsche swivel adjusters
71mm Stroke
73 Web Cam w/Web solids
Dual 40mm IDF Webers - LM-2 - 47.5 idles/125 mains/190 air corr./F11 tubes/28mm Vents - Float height 10.45mm/Drop 32mm
Bosch SVDA w/Pertronix module (7.5 initial 28 total @ 3400rpm)
Bosch W8CC plugs
Pertronix Flamethrower 40K coil
S&S 4-1 w/Walker QP 17862
3 rib 002 Trans
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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they list plugs and oxygen sensors but no wire sets for VW's that old. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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udidwht Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2005 Posts: 3779 Location: Seattle, WA./ HB, Ca./ Shizuoka, Japan
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Tom Powell Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2005 Posts: 4855 Location: Kaneohe
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:22 am Post subject: |
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SGKent wrote: |
... The bosch ones barely covered the holes and were so thin they kept falling inside creating a leak ... |
IIRC the part that covers the hole in the tin used to have lips and fit in the hole, one lip inside and one outside. Some/most newer wires do not have lips. Isn't it better to have the lipless type inside the hole and the fan air pushes them against the tin to make a seal?
Aloha
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outrun1984 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2010 Posts: 267 Location: Rutland, VT
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:25 am Post subject: |
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All very valid points guys! I do like the idea of a stronger coupler and wire. I may try the ones from Bus Depot...the price is right. I have noticed the Bosch wires in the bus now...which I did 5 years ago....do not fit the holes in the tins very well. _________________ 1979 Westy, Mexico Beige, 2.0 FI, Petronix, KYLE Fuel Injection Harness upgrade.
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Jeff Geisen Samba Chaplain
Joined: December 21, 2004 Posts: 1881 Location: N.W. Georgia
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:03 am Post subject: |
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I like to use Taylor wires for several reasons...
10.4 mm silicone jacketed wires
8mm core
spark plug boots vulcanized onto wire ends
They are available here in the classifieds for about $40.00. _________________ I Corinthians 4: 1 thru 5
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udidwht Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2005 Posts: 3779 Location: Seattle, WA./ HB, Ca./ Shizuoka, Japan
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Tom Powell wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
... The bosch ones barely covered the holes and were so thin they kept falling inside creating a leak ... |
IIRC the part that covers the hole in the tin used to have lips and fit in the hole, one lip inside and one outside. Some/most newer wires do not have lips. Isn't it better to have the lipless type inside the hole and the fan air pushes them against the tin to make a seal?
Aloha
tp |
I find they (lipless type) will fit well if you slide them away from the tin first then adjust them down accordingly until they are fit against the tin. You may have to slide one side down further than the other. _________________ 1972 Westy Hardtop/Type-4 2056cc
96mm Biral AA P/C's~7.8:1CR
Headflow Masters New AMC 42x36mm heads w/Porsche swivel adjusters
71mm Stroke
73 Web Cam w/Web solids
Dual 40mm IDF Webers - LM-2 - 47.5 idles/125 mains/190 air corr./F11 tubes/28mm Vents - Float height 10.45mm/Drop 32mm
Bosch SVDA w/Pertronix module (7.5 initial 28 total @ 3400rpm)
Bosch W8CC plugs
Pertronix Flamethrower 40K coil
S&S 4-1 w/Walker QP 17862
3 rib 002 Trans
185R14 Hankook tires |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21512 Location: Oklahoma City
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aerosurfer Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2012 Posts: 1602 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Tom Powell Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2005 Posts: 4855 Location: Kaneohe
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:33 am Post subject: |
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udidwht wrote: |
Tom Powell wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
... The bosch ones barely covered the holes and were so thin they kept falling inside creating a leak ... |
IIRC the part that covers the hole in the tin used to have lips and fit in the hole, one lip inside and one outside. Some/most newer wires do not have lips. Isn't it better to have the lipless type inside the hole and the fan air pushes them against the tin to make a seal?
Aloha
tp |
I find they (lipless type) will fit well if you slide them away from the tin first then adjust them down accordingly until they are fit against the tin. You may have to slide one side down further than the other. |
Sometimes, in packaging, the seals get bent out of shape and do not fit well against the flat hole in the tin. The last time I changed plug wires I slid the lipless wires down and through the hole and then pulled them back up against the tin. My rational was they would seal better with fan air pushing against them rather than fan air blowing the seal open.
Aloha
tp |
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udidwht Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2005 Posts: 3779 Location: Seattle, WA./ HB, Ca./ Shizuoka, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:38 am Post subject: |
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SGKent wrote: |
they list plugs and oxygen sensors but no wire sets for VW's that old. |
Just to update:
NGK Wires - RC-VWC020
Stock# 57403
Also...
Denso - 671-4094 (Made in Germany) _________________ 1972 Westy Hardtop/Type-4 2056cc
96mm Biral AA P/C's~7.8:1CR
Headflow Masters New AMC 42x36mm heads w/Porsche swivel adjusters
71mm Stroke
73 Web Cam w/Web solids
Dual 40mm IDF Webers - LM-2 - 47.5 idles/125 mains/190 air corr./F11 tubes/28mm Vents - Float height 10.45mm/Drop 32mm
Bosch SVDA w/Pertronix module (7.5 initial 28 total @ 3400rpm)
Bosch W8CC plugs
Pertronix Flamethrower 40K coil
S&S 4-1 w/Walker QP 17862
3 rib 002 Trans
185R14 Hankook tires
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PatJr Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2010 Posts: 204 Location: earth
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Spark Plug Wires |
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good to know, Thank You
I got some "on sale" special Bosh wires, they kept getting blown off the plugs
got some 7mm solid core wires with the hard ends and they seem to work much better, had to reuse the coil wire the one in the new set was too short _________________ #############################################
1970 Transporter a orange one
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sodbuster Samba Member
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