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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:42 pm    Post subject: Putting Engine Parts Back - Best sequence Reply with quote

I have to put my engine parts back on. It currently looks like this:

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What would be the best sequence for putting everything back on? My tin-ware has been cleaned, derusted and painted. The carb has been refurbished. So has the distributor. The generator is clean and working.

Also: Is that a good place for the fuel filter?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best place for your fuel filter would be by the tank so your lines are clean all the way back to the engine.

As for order I'm sure there are many combinations but my best guess;

Tins
Fuel pump
Intake manifolds
Alt Stand
Alternator and fan
Distributor
Carb
Exhaust
Think

I like the clean install, great job Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bolts on swing axle boots should sit at 3 or 9 o'clock to avoid to much pressure on the seams when flexing.

↑↑↑ that order sounds pretty good, except of course if you are running dual carbs , then leave the manifolds off till body is on.

And while you are at it ........a nice little fuel line grommet mod will give you peace of mind:

http://bobhooversblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/vw-how-to-prevent-engine-fires-in-air.html
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoCalJes wrote:
Best place for your fuel filter would be by the tank so your lines are clean all the way back to the engine.

As for order I'm sure there are many combinations but my best guess;

Tins
Fuel pump
Intake manifolds
Alt Stand
Alternator and fan
Distributor
Carb
Exhaust
Think

I like the clean install, great job Wink

Oil cooler first.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the deal with this long block? I would perform a compression check and/or a leakdown 'cause I have the tools.
R&R valve covers. Set engine up on #1 TDC. Prep to install distrib and get close to timing specs.
Lower cylinder tin, called sleds by some.
Heater boxes, and leave the nuts loose.
Cylinder head tin. Set your dual port intake on with the ends installed loosly.
Gen stand. Install fanshroud.
Install your exhaust system, loose.
As you can see many of the parts are installed loose to facilitate alignment with subordinate components.
You will see it all come together with this similar type of thinking.
Install incidentals, such as carb, distrib cap, wires, fuel hose, fan belt, etc.
You can time the ign with a test light or even a DVOM to get you close. Prime the carb with good gas and you should start.
I think this covers the basics.
Whatcha using for oil. Not knowing the engine, I would still suggest the Shell Rotella 30 weight. Easily avail and loaded with additives.
Hope this helps. Bill
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice guys - SoCalJes, Glenn, Swavananda and Rockerarm (whose sequence has additional useful - necessary, in my case - advice}.

I now have enough for me to start and work my way through the rebuild.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiwighia68 wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys - SoCalJes, Glenn, Swavananda and Rockerarm (whose sequence has additional useful - necessary, in my case - advice}.

I now have enough for me to start and work my way through the rebuild.


Why am I in 4th place? I am so sad. Really, there is a different world between a shop with all the needed tools/equipment vs someone who needs the car to be ready to go to work tomorrow and working in an apt carport. I thought you should know. Bill
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kiwighia68 wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys - SoCalJes, Glenn, Swavananda and Rockerarm (whose sequence has additional useful - necessary, in my case - advice}.

I now have enough for me to start and work my way through the rebuild.


Why am I in 4th place? I am so sad. Really, there is a different world between a shop with all the needed tools/equipment vs someone who needs the car to be ready to go to work tomorrow and working in an apt carport. I thought you should know. Bill


Hi Bill, you were the last to post your advice - much appreciated, by the way. And I'm sure you know: 'The last shall be first.'

I'm just putting everything back together before I put the body back on and take the car to a VW specialist shop for a comprehensive front bumper to back bumper service and commissioning the car.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you kimighia. I can be an azzhole if I need to get my point across. As simple as it is for people who have experience in successfully installing the tin and accessories it can be laborious. There is a lot to know. An advantage is the engine can be successfully assembled without the car.
Hope this helps, Bill.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rockerarm wrote:
Thank you kimighia. I can be an azzhole if I need to get my point across. As simple as it is for people who have experience in successfully installing the tin and accessories it can be laborious. There is a lot to know. An advantage is the engine can be successfully assembled without the car.
Hope this helps, Bill.


It sure does help. Just knowing it can be done by a dunce like me helps already.

PS What do they mean when they say "longblock"?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS What do they mean when they say "longblock"?

A longblock is a reference to the assembled assembly from valve cover to valve cover.
FYI: a shortblock would be the above assembly minus the heads and piston/cylinders.
This is for our air-cooled stuff, as typical American engines with cast iron blocks with or without the heads is labeled a little bit different.
Hope this helps, Bill.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like the alternator stand baffle plates are upside down. In the picture it looks like the dents are raising up not sunk down. Could be just the picture though, it is tough to tell if it is an innie or an outie. The oil slings in a clockwise direction. So you want those plates blocking stuff coming from the left, a lot like the current US senate.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It looks like the alternator stand baffle plates are upside down. In the picture it looks like the dents are raising up not sunk down. Could be just the picture though, it is tough to tell if it is an innie or an outie. The oil slings in a clockwise direction. So you want those plates blocking stuff coming from the left, a lot like the current US senate.

Would that still be true for someone assembling an engine south of the equator?
Doesn't stuff spin in the opposite direction down under?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It looks like the alternator stand baffle plates are upside down. In the picture it looks like the dents are raising up not sunk down. Could be just the picture though, it is tough to tell if it is an innie or an outie. The oil slings in a clockwise direction. So you want those plates blocking stuff coming from the left, a lot like the current US senate.

Would that still be true for someone assembling an engine south of the equator?
Doesn't stuff spin in the opposite direction down under?
:wink:


Yep, and we drive on the right (correct) side of the road too. (I had that plate upside down because I had blocked the aperture underneath with tape, and of course, the plate wouldn't sit flush with the baffles pointing down. That's my story and I'm sticking to it, waterboarding or not.)
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It looks like the alternator stand baffle plates are upside down. In the picture it looks like the dents are raising up not sunk down. Could be just the picture though, it is tough to tell if it is an innie or an outie. The oil slings in a clockwise direction. So you want those plates blocking stuff coming from the left, a lot like the current US senate.


Thanks, got it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rockerarm wrote:
PS What do they mean when they say "longblock"?

A longblock is a reference to the assembled assembly from valve cover to valve cover.
FYI: a shortblock would be the above assembly minus the heads and piston/cylinders.
This is for our air-cooled stuff, as typical American engines with cast iron blocks with or without the heads is labeled a little bit different.
Hope this helps, Bill.


Another dormant synapse in my brain now have something useful to know and remember. Thanks.
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