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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:20 pm    Post subject: Muffler/Header Recommendations Reply with quote

Thinking of a new muffler/header for Mabel. Want something with a nice rumble, not to loud. Looking for recommendations and testimonials.... Smile Your input is appreciated.... Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any motor mods?

for stock style engines i like these -[url] http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC-C10-6068[/url]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they should disclaim, bugpack is now EMPI.

but here is the bees knees:
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Vintage-Speed-Equal-Length-38mm-155-203-035SF-p/155-203-035sf.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they should disclaim, bugpack is now EMPI.

but here is the bees knees:
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Vintage-Speed-Equal-Length-38mm-155-203-035SF-p/155-203-035sf.htm


true on the BP and empi thing, but im sure that cip is selling "old stock" BP stuff. and i was under the impression that for now BP and empi product lines will be seperate, so for now BP exhaust system should be fine. and i have used the empi version of the same in the past and no complaints there either.

VS stuff is nice - but costly, not worth it for me on an otherwise stock style motor. build up a nice performance engine with all the good stuff and yeah for sure VS is a good choice to consider.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ true

I have a nice tri-mill in the garage collecting rust if you wanna buy that.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

67jason wrote:
any motor mods?

for stock style engines i like these -[url] http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC-C10-6068[/url]


No...stock 1600... Smile Just wanting a more throatier sound...
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^ true

I have a nice tri-mill in the garage collecting rust if you wanna buy that.
I may be interested in that. Any photos? I'd really appreciate it
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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67jason wrote:
any motor mods?

for stock style engines i like these -[url] http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC-C10-6068[/url]


No...stock 1600... Smile Just wanting a more throatier sound...


then the hide-away header muffler or even a standard header and single quiet pack would be perfect for your motor. both these exhaust systems free up horsepower (just a few mind you) and allow the engine to breath a bit easier, and they have a throatier sound over stock mufflers. In my opinion they are better performance wise then just about any aftermarket exhausts that exit through the stock pea shooter holes - with the vintage speed offering being an exception, but the cost is to high in my opinion for a simple bolt on power adder to an otherwise stock motor.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about something like this?

http://www.jbugs.com/product/3414.html?Category_Code=1968-vw-bug-performance-exhaust
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about something like this?

http://www.jbugs.com/product/3414.html?Category_Code=1968-vw-bug-performance-exhaust


ill fitting, ugly and doesn't add anything performance wise, and probably hurts performance over a nice stock exhaust system....sorry i don't recommend it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

67jason wrote:
houseofboyd wrote:
How about something like this?

http://www.jbugs.com/product/3414.html?Category_Code=1968-vw-bug-performance-exhaust


ill fitting, ugly and doesn't add anything performance wise, and probably hurts performance over a nice stock exhaust system....sorry i don't recommend it.


I appreciate your honesty...that's why I'm asking here for input and suggestions...

Also considering a mondo phat boy type of exhaust as well...found a few youtube videos, but the sound quality sucks...
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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67jason wrote:
houseofboyd wrote:
How about something like this?

http://www.jbugs.com/product/3414.html?Category_Code=1968-vw-bug-performance-exhaust


ill fitting, ugly and doesn't add anything performance wise, and probably hurts performance over a nice stock exhaust system....sorry i don't recommend it.


I appreciate your honesty...that's why I'm asking here for input and suggestions...

Also considering a mondo phat boy type of exhaust as well...found a few youtube videos, but the sound quality sucks...


the fat boy type would be better then that 4 tip, but the problem with the fat boy is they are technically too big for an otherwise stock motor. but they still have performance benefits, just you might notice a slight lack of low end performance running a large muffler like the fat boy styles.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are just after a different sound, how about stainless steel flared peashooters? A vendor on Samba sells them. A little throatier sound with all the benefits of a stock muffler. I am thinking of using them on my 1776 in my 71 bug.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you are just after a different sound, how about stainless steel flared peashooters? A vendor on Samba sells them. A little throatier sound with all the benefits of a stock muffler. I am thinking of using them on my 1776 in my 71 bug.


That's a possibility. Just not a big fan of the pea shooters...
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder what these sound like?

http://www.jbugs.com/product/2564-11w2031-10.html?...rs-systems
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

houseofboyd wrote:
I wonder what these sound like?

http://www.jbugs.com/product/2564-11w2031-10.html?...rs-systems
I want those too. They also sell them with chrome tips for $209 I think. They are made by bugpack, who is now owned by empi. They seem like they are fairly open, but they say they have mufflers. I bet it's loud, but mr stinger loud, and have an okay amount of back pressure. Anyone have street tubes? How do they look and sound?
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one of these for my '70:
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Tri-Mil-Hotdog-Muffler-VW-Beetle-and-Ghia-p/tri-mil-hotdog.htm
Got mine ceramic coated. Cost around $160 plus shipping.
It really is a quality looking header muffler.
Haven't run it yet, but I found some videos of it online, and it sounds great and fits nicely through the original pea shooter cutouts.
Although my car is not going to be setting low in the rear, I can see that people with lowered Beetles could use this with no clearance issues, either.
Not sure exactly what performance gains can be had by installing it, but John at AC.net highly recommends it, so it must be worthwhile..
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I bought one of these for my '70:
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Tri-Mil-Hotdog-Muffler-VW-Beetle-and-Ghia-p/tri-mil-hotdog.htm
Got mine ceramic coated. Cost around $160 plus shipping.
It really is a quality looking header muffler.
Haven't run it yet, but I found some videos of it online, and it sounds great and fits nicely through the original pea shooter cutouts.
Although my car is not going to be setting low in the rear, I can see why people with lowered Beetles could use this with no clearance issues, either.
Not sure exactly what performance gains can be had by installing it, but John at AC.net highly recommends it, so it must be worthwhile..


Sounds pretty throaty....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcX-GAREsE
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That tri-mil one above is what i have, and i love it!
It gives off a great sound, that people don't expect to be coming from a bug. and your Revs will actually sound a little bit more like a real rev xD
(1776 btw)
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cjsuner wrote:
That tri-mil one above is what i have, and i love it!
It gives off a great sound, that people don't expect to be coming from a bug. and your Revs will actually sound a little bit more like a real rev xD
(1776 btw)


Yeah, the more videos I've watched with this, the more I'm leaning towards it. Really nice sound, nice look, looks like a quality muffler, price is right.... Smile
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