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Boolean Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:26 am Post subject: Billet T1 heads |
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I saw this at the Maikäfer show last week. Presumably high output street heads.
I thought some may like it. _________________ I strive for perfection. Excellence will not be tolerated!
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Boolean Samba Member
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58Dub Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:46 am Post subject: |
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very nice! Are these available? _________________ 58 Beetle (now just a pile of parts in the corner)
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Boolean Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Not yet, that single head was almost still warm from the mill...
Nice idea though - I like that layout better than JPM.
I think they should add the rocker support like JPM has though. _________________ I strive for perfection. Excellence will not be tolerated!
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[email protected] Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Billet T1 heads |
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Boolean wrote: |
I saw this at the Maikäfer show last week. Presumably high output street heads.
I thought some may like it. |
More and thicker fins = Better cooling?
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jfats808 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Should make for a pretty wide engine, in any application. They look like they are cut for semi hemi? Or the chamber is very small. The casting looks like a 10 pounder. _________________ 2276 IDA's 86C 11-1 DD !
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kielbasa Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Those are some deep heads. No need for manifolds just make intake bolt pattern in IDA and your good to go. _________________ Gotta give my props to:
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ArnoudH Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Billet T1 heads |
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Maybe someone should do that with a type 1 head [/quote]
Roy:that is a Type 1 head -with a type4 intakemanifold-pattern.
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Boolean Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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That is the very same head I held in my hand! Someone asked me if I was going to make copies at home when I took several pictures of it. I won't by the way. _________________ I strive for perfection. Excellence will not be tolerated!
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Marv [UK] Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not convinced by the fins around the exhaust port. They look restrictive to flow and counterproductive. There needs to be flow around the port and the fin spacing ought to be even around the circumference _________________ The opinion of the author as expressed does not always reflect that of the author nor does he extend any apologies or assume any liability or responsibility for its content or lack thereof or for any lack of humour of the reader of any content at all, anywhere, ever. The reader agrees to all risk by reading it and is advised that any ‘issue’ is theirs alone as they chose to read it. |
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[email protected] Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Billet T1 heads |
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ArnoudH wrote: |
Maybe someone should do that with a type 1 head |
Roy:that is a Type 1 head -with a type4 intakemanifold-pattern.
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Those heads look ridiculously heavy. I don't see any advantage using them. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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Boolean Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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They were not ridicolously heavy. And they have much better ports than stock configuration.
You know, like they try to do in racing. _________________ I strive for perfection. Excellence will not be tolerated!
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Quokka42 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Extending the fins around the exhaust port is just going to conduct heat back into the head, and the extra fins below the ports aren't going to do much that's useful. Impressive bit of machining, but I think you need to have a competent engineer look at the design. _________________ There has only ever been one man who was perfect, and they nailed Him to a cross. |
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Quokka42 wrote: |
Extending the fins around the exhaust port is just going to conduct heat back into the head, and the extra fins below the ports aren't going to do much that's useful. Impressive bit of machining, but I think you need to have a competent engineer look at the design. |
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modok Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Way cool!
Although I kinda agree. If they have made it so the tins won't fit, then there was no need to keep the fins stock outer dimension. Should have gone another 6mm bigger!! |
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bugguy1967 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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They should start producing matching cylinder tins to go with those too.... Is that an opening for the thermostat connecting rod? _________________ "A petrol engine can start readily, run smoothly and give every appearance of being in good order, without necessarily being in good tune." - Colin Campbell, "The Sportscar Engine" |
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, tins are a problem. Unless you have a baja, which wait no, it's still a problem.
Bugguy, these are race application heads, which need no flaps not thermostat. oh wait, they're marketed as street heads.
So constructive criticism: they need to be re-"engineered" _________________ Wash your hands
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Boolean Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:58 am Post subject: |
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I think the holes through the middle is for air circulation, but I guess a thermostat rod could go through there too.
I'd say they would require much less tinwork than MS230/250. _________________ I strive for perfection. Excellence will not be tolerated!
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ArnoudH Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Special 'tins'will be availible for stock fanshrouds as well as Porschestyle cooling.
The heads are only slightly heavier in weight and take stock rocker+shafts.
Valves are 45/40 or 45/38 Nimonic.
Btw.Edy Remmele(whom's outfit makes these heads)was quick to point out that these are prototypes.
He also makes type4 heads in various configurations-all his engines are built for driving beyond the quartermile mark. |
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