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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:26 am    Post subject: Billet T1 heads Reply with quote

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I saw this at the Maikäfer show last week. Presumably high output street heads.
I thought some may like it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very nice! Are these available?
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not yet, that single head was almost still warm from the mill...
Nice idea though - I like that layout better than JPM.
I think they should add the rocker support like JPM has though.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: Billet T1 heads Reply with quote

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I saw this at the Maikäfer show last week. Presumably high output street heads.
I thought some may like it.


More and thicker fins = Better cooling?

Maybe someone should do that with a type 1 head Wink
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should make for a pretty wide engine, in any application. They look like they are cut for semi hemi? Or the chamber is very small. The casting looks like a 10 pounder.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are some deep heads. No need for manifolds just make intake bolt pattern in IDA and your good to go. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Billet T1 heads Reply with quote

Maybe someone should do that with a type 1 head Wink[/quote]

Roy:that is a Type 1 head -with a type4 intakemanifold-pattern.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is the very same head I held in my hand! Very Happy Someone asked me if I was going to make copies at home when I took several pictures of it. I won't by the way.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not convinced by the fins around the exhaust port. They look restrictive to flow and counterproductive. There needs to be flow around the port and the fin spacing ought to be even around the circumference
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Billet T1 heads Reply with quote

ArnoudH wrote:
Maybe someone should do that with a type 1 head Wink


Roy:that is a Type 1 head -with a type4 intakemanifold-pattern.

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Ah ha!!! Now I see the type 4 intake and type 1 exhaust....pretty cool. $2800 huh? Yeah, I'm a little short this week, will you take an IOU? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those heads look ridiculously heavy. I don't see any advantage using them.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were not ridicolously heavy. And they have much better ports than stock configuration.
You know, like they try to do in racing.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extending the fins around the exhaust port is just going to conduct heat back into the head, and the extra fins below the ports aren't going to do much that's useful. Impressive bit of machining, but I think you need to have a competent engineer look at the design.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Extending the fins around the exhaust port is just going to conduct heat back into the head, and the extra fins below the ports aren't going to do much that's useful. Impressive bit of machining, but I think you need to have a competent engineer look at the design.


X2. Looks like they were adding fins just for the sake of adding fins with no real regard as to their function.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way cool!

Although I kinda agree. If they have made it so the tins won't fit, then there was no need to keep the fins stock outer dimension. Should have gone another 6mm bigger!!
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should start producing matching cylinder tins to go with those too.... Is that an opening for the thermostat connecting rod?
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, tins are a problem. Unless you have a baja, which wait no, it's still a problem.

Bugguy, these are race application heads, which need no flaps not thermostat. oh wait, they're marketed as street heads.

So constructive criticism: they need to be re-"engineered"
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the holes through the middle is for air circulation, but I guess a thermostat rod could go through there too.
I'd say they would require much less tinwork than MS230/250.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Special 'tins'will be availible for stock fanshrouds as well as Porschestyle cooling.
The heads are only slightly heavier in weight and take stock rocker+shafts.
Valves are 45/40 or 45/38 Nimonic.
Btw.Edy Remmele(whom's outfit makes these heads)was quick to point out that these are prototypes.
He also makes type4 heads in various configurations-all his engines are built for driving beyond the quartermile mark. Wink
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