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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

I recently picked up a worn out turbo at the JY (needs a rebuild and a new compressor wheel) to put on the rail after I get it up and running again. It's a IHI RHB5 (VF58) from some kind of Subaru from what I've read about it online so far. It was just laying on the front seat of a small pickup truck out in the boonies in the JY with no matching engine to it in any of the vehicles around where I found it. The guy at the JY let me have it for free since the shaft had so much play in it. When I pulled it apart the compressor wheel was messed up (bent tips and edges), but the compressor housing had no corresponding damage on it at all. I don't know how that's possible, but it means I can get away with replacing the bearings, seals and compressor wheel and have a working turbo. I'll be sending the parts off to get balanced properly so it doesn't self destruct when I spool it up for the first time. I already ordered a rebuild kit and a compressor wheel for it and a small boost gauge so I can keep tabs on it.

Before I had bought the parts to repair that free turbo, I put a really low bid on another IHI RHB5 turbo (a VJ11 this time) on Ebay, but I wasn't really expecting to get it. Someone else tried to outbid me on it at the last minute, but gave up before they passed my max bid. So now I have a second turbo coming soon. It needs a rebuild kit installed as well, but both the turbine and compressor wheels are supposed to be in good shape. I'll know for sure when it gets here and I get a chance to tear it down. I'll rebuild it and then send it in to get balanced at the same time with the other one to save on shipping.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

I've only been getting out to the shop for a short while each time I head out there, so I haven't been making as much progress as I would like to lately. The dash is pretty much complete with the exception of the glove box and upper mounts that get welded to the bottom windshield bar. I've got the glove box started, but I still need the tunnel and dash bolted in place and together before I can get the final measurements I need to finish it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

Got a little more done of the dash frame today, but nothing worthy of a pic yet. I hope to get that frame built up far enough that I can start to make the glove box soon. I don't have any plans drawn up for it anywhere, so I'm just shooting from the hip with this one.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

FYI: Mark V Fiberglass emailed me back and said to check out chircoestore.com for the seat covers. I looked around their website and found a seat cover which looks like an exact match for the old seat covers that I have now. The only down side is they are pretty expensive at $57 each. If I got two at the same time I'd qualify for the free shipping (orders over $99) so that would help a little. Here's the link in case anyone else is looking for covers for this type of seat.
http://chircoestore.com/high-back-fiberglass-seat-cover-black-vinyl-dune-buggy-sand-rail.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

dustymojave wrote:
Re the fiberglass seats...
"Mark V" is the fiberglass company that makes the seats you linked to. They are also the primary manufacturer of Baja fiberglass Baja Bug body kits. "Mark V" is not a reference to the development level of the seats or their design. Mark V is in Nevada these days. They used to be located in the San Fernando Valley, about 3/4 of a mile from my home at the time. My Baja has rear fenders from them and probably the front 1-piece as well, although I didn't buy that new, so I'm not sure of who made it.

I didn't know that about the Mark V name. I thought the company name was called Fiberglass Specialties. That was because I saw that name (FS) in red and yellow letters right under the huge phone number at the top of the webpage. Now that you mentioned it, I noticed the first part of the weblink I posted says "markvfiberglass.com". I double checked the page and they have their real name, Mark V Fiberglass, up on the top of the other side of the page. However it's shown in more plain light blue background with white lettering and it blends in with the other text around it to my eyes. I think they could have done that area of the page just a little bit better to avoid confusion like this. It could also be my fault for not reading the webpage a little more thoroughly though.

Honestly I was just happy to see that these seats were still being sold, and therefore info should still be available from them about seat covers for these seats. I emailed them about the seat covers this weekend so I hope to hear back from them soon. I can't afford to upgrade them right now, so I'll have to make due with what I already have for a while longer.

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I think I still have my old seats and can take pictures later of them and maybe I can find the old mounts in the scrap pile too.

That would be a great help and very much appreciated if you could get those pics. I'm almost at the point of having to figure out the mounts for the seats.

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Re the dash...
...It seems like a lot of support for a dash, but well done. I find the bottom edge of the dash needs to not be sharp edged...

I agree completely with this. Even the part about it being overbuilt. I realize that I have a tendency to do that when I build stuff from scratch, but I still do it that way anyway for some reason. The aluminum dash piece is pretty flimsy due to the cuts made for the 1" flaps and the cut out for the steering column. The steel frame is built to compensate for that flexibility. I still need to weld some mounting tabs to the lower windshield bar to attach the dash frame to, but that will have to wait until it stops raining around here (maybe Tuesday?).

The plan is for those 1" flaps I bent up to be sitting on top of larger flat pieces that will run front to back approx 12", and across the entire width of the dash bottom cutout. The area the drivers and passengers legs go through will look like the inside of a big squareish tube. Once I get that part finished the pics will show it better than I can explain it with words. No sharp edges will be presented to the occupants legs anywhere under the dash when I'm done.

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But normal WW fluid should be OK in the jug and in the pump. If NOT, then the product fails to serve for the purpose for which it is being sold.

That is my thinking as well, which is why I'll be running regular ready made WW fluid for the foreseeable future. If the pump fails, the bottle looks like it will accept a universal "push in through grommet" type of pump. If not... well I guess I'll just get creative and cross that bridge when I get to it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

Re the fiberglass seats...
"Mark V" is the fiberglass company that makes the seats you linked to. They are also the primary manufacturer of Baja fiberglass Baja Bug body kits. "Mark V" is not a reference to the development level of the seats or their design. Mark V is in Nevada these days. They used to be located in the San Fernando Valley, about 3/4 of a mile from my home at the time. My Baja has rear fenders from them and probably the front 1-piece as well, although I didn't buy that new, so I'm not sure of who made it.

I think I still have my old seats and can take pictures later of them and maybe I can find the old mounts in the scrap pile too.

Re the dash...
That dash looks good. It seems like a lot of support for a dash, but well done. I find the bottom edge of the dash needs to not be sharp edged. When my Hi Jumper got quadruple-endoed when flat-out, the only injury to the occupants was a cut on the knee of the co-driver from the bottom of the dash.

Re the windshield washer...
Having spent 11 years in plastics R&D, including having been the Supervisor of a Lab, the plastic WW jug may have shown some trouble with chemical resistance to some soaps. Polyethylene IS affected by detergents. In fact, after UV light, soap is one of the most severe problems for polyethylene. YES, I know that many soaps are packaged in polyethylene. But I've had to deal with the results of 140,000 5-gallon polyethylene jugs failing in a warehouse. And I spent years testing polyethylene containers with soaps.

But normal WW fluid should be OK in the jug and in the pump. If NOT, then the product fails to serve for the purpose for which it is being sold.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

It was raining pretty much all day here so I just stayed in the barn working on making the dash frame for a while. I used the same 3/4" x 3/4" steel angle iron I used to make the tunnel frame. It's 1/8" thick and is fairly easy to work with and weld using .035 flux core wire. I got the majority of it done, but my back had me calling it quits before I could finish the rear support bracing.

This is where I stopped at for today.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

Today I cut the holes in the dash for the two gauges using a carbide hole cutter and my mill. I set them up so the top edges of both gauges are level with each other and the same distance from the top of the dash. That required figuring out the OD of the bezel as well as the OD of the gauge body where it passes through the aluminum. Then I used those figures to find the centers of each hole. I had to support the dash with step blocks to keep the chatter to a minimum during the cutting process. After a little tuning with a half round file, the gauges fit snug in the holes, but not too tight. I also used an angle grinder to carefully trim back the raised diamonds that interfered with the bezels being able to sit flat on the front of the dash. I'll make the gauge retainers as part of the steel dash frame when I build it.
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The glove box will be very small, but I don't plan on keeping anything other than registration and insurance paperwork in there, so that's fine with me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

I had some questions over on the STF thread about the cardboard dash template I made. I just went ahead and started to make the aluminum version of the dash to show what I was thinking a little bit easier and more clearly. I still need to make the framework behind it to support it, as well as the gauge and glove box cutouts, but the basic shape is pretty much there now. I drew 1" wide flaps on the lower edges and then made the bends by clamping the aluminum between some pieces of steel angle iron. I clamped the angle pieces in the bench vise to hold it along the bend lines. I added some vise grips as well for the long bends. A big rubber mallet knocked the flaps over most of the way and I used a smooth faced hammer to tighten up the bends a little bit more. I had to get creative with the clamping in order to get the small diagonal bends in the middle. However, it turned out fine with a little thinking to figure it out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

The WW kit just arrived in the mail today. The pump on the one I received matches the picture on the Ebay ad I got mine from exactly. It's not like the pumps in the other two ads mentioned, which was something I was wondering about after seeing them. There were no instructions in the box with it, but there was a caution printed on the outside of the box. It explained the confusion with the chinglish notes on the various Ebay ads mentioned above. It reads: "CAUTION, ALWAYS USE CLEAR WASHER SOLVENT WITH PURE WATER, DO NOT USE SOAP WATER". It sounds to me like if you use regular bottled WW fluid you'll be fine. If you use concentrated WW fluid that you have to add water to, I'd guess that caution means you're only supposed to use distilled water.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

I was too worn out from my physical therapy appointment today so I skipped working on the carport project. Instead I did some design layout work for the dash to figure out the shape I wanted it to be and where I wanted the gauges to go. I had a thick old cardboard box laying around so I cut that up to make a pattern for the dash. I cut a two cardboard disks out of the scrap cardboard. I used a couple of hole saws that were close to the size of the two gauges I will be using. Those will be the LCD speedo/tach and the PLX DM-6 multi gauge. I'll be using idiot lights for the alt and oil, just like the old Bugs do. I put the shifter in the tunnel and slid it all the way forward. Then I moved the shifter all the way forward as well to check for clearance between the handle and the dash. So far so good. To place the circles for the gauge placement I sat in the drivers seat and held them up in front of the dash until I found a position that was easy to see. I stuck the circles on with some small nails to hold them in place until I could get the circles traced onto the dash pattern. On the pass side I'm planning to make a small glove box (not shown in pic yet) for registration, insurance and other misc stuff like that. It's not much progress, but it's more than I expected to get done today.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

That's interesting about the "water only" note on those two ads you linked. From looking at the Ebay pictures, all the bottles appear to be the same, but the pump on the one I got looks different than the two you listed. I wonder if that's why the note wasn't in the ad for the one I got? Either way, I intend to run it with regular WW fluid.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

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notime2d8 wrote:
Any reason you went this route for a WW bottle and pump instead of grabbing one from a small car at the junkyard?

Most of the ones I found in the local (very small) JY were either destroyed or decayed too much to be of any use. I figured I'd just get a new one if I could find one cheap enough. For $16, I figured "Why not?".

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Also, I saw another one mention to use only water, no soap? would that be for the pump or plastic?

I don't know where you saw that comment, so I can't really say what someone else was thinking when they said that. Is that in reference to a plastic (lexan/acrylic(sp?)) windshield or is that comment referring to the plastic bottle/pump assembly. If it refers to the bottle/pump, That doesn't make very much sense to me.

I'll be using safety glass for my rail windshield, same as a regular car, so I plan to use regular WW fluid rather than water. The windshield and gasket will be sealed with the correct type of adhesive for that application, so I don't expect any problems from using the standard WW fluid.




Both of these look the same as the one you purchased and have the warning:

CAUTION: Please use pure water, DO NOT USE soap water.

Doesn't make sense to me either but was wondering as I was planning on getting one too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Universal-Classic-Car-...mp;vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Universal-12V-Car-Wind...mp;vxp=mtr
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

notime2d8 wrote:
Any reason you went this route for a WW bottle and pump instead of grabbing one from a small car at the junkyard?

Most of the ones I found in the local (very small) JY were either destroyed or decayed too much to be of any use. I figured I'd just get a new one if I could find one cheap enough. For $16, I figured "Why not?".

notime2d8 wrote:
Also, I saw another one mention to use only water, no soap? would that be for the pump or plastic?

I don't know where you saw that comment, so I can't really say what someone else was thinking when they said that. Is that in reference to a plastic (lexan/acrylic(sp?)) windshield or is that comment referring to the plastic bottle/pump assembly. If it refers to the bottle/pump, That doesn't make very much sense to me.

I'll be using safety glass for my rail windshield, same as a regular car, so I plan to use regular WW fluid rather than water. The windshield and gasket will be sealed with the correct type of adhesive for that application, so I don't expect any problems from using the standard WW fluid.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

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Even though the rail hasn't been getting as much attention as I would have liked to give it lately, I still have some small parts trickling in every now and then. I just received my speedometer/tachometer in the mail today and I'm still waiting on a windshield washer bottle kit to get here.

Here's a link to the speedometer on Ebay. It had a BIN price of $26.41 with free shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282020995994?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT .

For the windshield washer bottle kit they didn't have a BIN at that time, just an auction. I got lucky and was able to get it for the opening bid of $0.99 with $14.99 for the shipping. Since I got mine, the seller has since changed their Ebay ad to a BIN format with the kit now going for $9.99, plus another $9.99 for shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-International-Wi...mp;vxp=mtr



Any reason you went this route for a WW bottle and pump instead of grabbing one from a small car at the junkyard? Also, I saw another one mention to use only water, no soap? would that be for the pump or plastic?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

Even though the rail hasn't been getting as much attention as I would have liked to give it lately, I still have some small parts trickling in every now and then. I just received my speedometer/tachometer in the mail today and I'm still waiting on a windshield washer bottle kit to get here.

Here's a link to the speedometer on Ebay. It had a BIN price of $26.41 with free shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282020995994?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT .

For the windshield washer bottle kit they didn't have a BIN at that time, just an auction. I got lucky and was able to get it for the opening bid of $0.99 with $14.99 for the shipping. Since I got mine, the seller has since changed their Ebay ad to a BIN format with the kit now going for $9.99, plus another $9.99 for shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-International-Wi...mp;vxp=mtr
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

I recently decided to put the rail on the back burner for a little bit while I build a two car carport attached to the barn. After this last tent fiasco I decided to just bite the bullet and build something a bit more substantial. That way I wouldn't have to worry about it every time the wind picked up and the leaves rattled a little bit. I'll attach it to the barn's North wall which is the one with the three windows visible in my latest pics. The West and North carport walls will be solid except maybe for a few windows. The East side will be open for now, but I'd like to get some big doors on that side before winter if possible. Most of the winds we get are from the North and the West anyway so it should be fine for a while with the East side left open. It will be the same width as the barn (20') and it will be 20' wide. There's a 100 year old tree in the way of the NW corner, so I'll have to zig zag the carport around it. I'll only have to move it over 4', so one parking spot will be 10' x 20' and the other side will be 10' x 16'.
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Homemade rail for street & off road: BJ front beam (bent), IRS rear (boxed/maybe bent), stock T1 DP 1600, 009, 34PICT-3 (soon to be dual 40HPMXs), 4-1 glass pack exh, T3 brakes (F disk, R drum & Dual MC), Bug trans (002, 5 rib going in soon).
Link to my rail (re)build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629493
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

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Do your existing seats have the cross support tube notch formed at the meeting of the seat bottom with the seat back like the Mark V ones and mine? That is the issue in those seats.

Do you have a pic of this area? I don't think mine have anything like that, but I'll get some better pics of that area of my seats and post them so you can see how mine look compared to yours.

You mentioned "Mark V", so maybe mine are an older version of those seats (Mk I through IV?). They do have somewhat factory looking seat belt slots cut in them at the shoulders that I don't see in the current seat pics on the website.

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And make sure your seat mount bolts have the heads to the inside and the tips to the outside.

That's the plan. I'd hate to get "screwed" by a big pothole or something. Laughing
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Homemade rail for street & off road: BJ front beam (bent), IRS rear (boxed/maybe bent), stock T1 DP 1600, 009, 34PICT-3 (soon to be dual 40HPMXs), 4-1 glass pack exh, T3 brakes (F disk, R drum & Dual MC), Bug trans (002, 5 rib going in soon).
Link to my rail (re)build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629493
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

Do your existing seats have the cross support tube notch formed at the meeting of the seat bottom with the seat back like the Mark V ones and mine? That is the issue in those seats.

Even with 5" of padding, I'm concerned about contact with that.

And make sure your seat mount bolts have the heads to the inside and the tips to the outside.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: Budget rail rebuild and dual carbs project Reply with quote

Richard, I think you misunderstood the post above with the link to the seats. I put that link up there to show that I had finally found the manufacturer of the seats that came with my rail. I am ok with the way these seats feel with the 5-6" of extra memory type foam seat padding in the bottom of the seat that a PO had placed in there. The forward lean that the seat back felt like it had was my biggest complaint with them. I'm addressing that issue when I reinstall those seats in the rail. I really just need some new seat covers to replace the old, stiff and torn covers I have now.

I'd love to get some suspension seats to replace them, but this frame I have now is too narrow to fit any of the ones I've looked at so far. When I replace the frame, I will be getting a wider one so I can fit whichever seats I want to put in there. That's when I'm planning to do the seat upgrade to suspension seats.
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Homemade rail for street & off road: BJ front beam (bent), IRS rear (boxed/maybe bent), stock T1 DP 1600, 009, 34PICT-3 (soon to be dual 40HPMXs), 4-1 glass pack exh, T3 brakes (F disk, R drum & Dual MC), Bug trans (002, 5 rib going in soon).
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