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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just bite the bullet and get an early box. But get it from someone, not some company. Only if you have to.

Yea, go KYB. I did Gas-a-just up front and excel-g in the rear. Should have done all four Gas-a-just though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian wrote:
I'd just bite the bullet and get an early box. But get it from someone, not some company. Only if you have to.


Do you have a suggestion for a rebuilder? I need to have my RHD box worked.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a suggestion for a rebuilder?
Wolfgang Int.

There are some differences between LHD & RHD.
Someone was re-popping them. JK used to stock them.
This is the part# 214415049F.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just source the seals and take a Saturday to do it. There's plenty of pictures in the manual on how to do it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NICE WORK!!! you are alot faster than me!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just source the seals and take a Saturday to do it. There's plenty of pictures in the manual on how to do it.


That's what I was hoping to try if the box needs attention.

I'm guessing the draglink might be pretty loose though. Won't know until I get under there. I'll keep yall posted.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian wrote:
I'd just bite the bullet and get an early box. But get it from someone, not some company. Only if you have to.

Yea, go KYB. I did Gas-a-just up front and excel-g in the rear. Should have done all four Gas-a-just though.


Any reason you'd go all gas-a-just over the excel-g's? I can get the excel-g's pretty cheap from rockauto

I always had really good luck with real basic oil filled shocks on my beetle. The gas shocks made it too stiff. For that reason I was leaning away from the gas-a-just ones for the bus.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yarkle wrote:
NICE WORK!!! you are alot faster than me!


Thanks... I've busted my tail getting to this point (not implying you haven't).

I'm fortunate this Bus was in such good condition to start out with, as it's helped me get it back into service pretty quickly. I've owned it just shy of three months now. Ready to start putting on some miles and enjoying it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vee Dub Nut wrote:
Brian wrote:
I'd just bite the bullet and get an early box. But get it from someone, not some company. Only if you have to.

Yea, go KYB. I did Gas-a-just up front and excel-g in the rear. Should have done all four Gas-a-just though.


Any reason you'd go all gas-a-just over the excel-g's? I can get the excel-g's pretty cheap from rockauto

I always had really good luck with real basic oil filled shocks on my beetle. The gas shocks made it too stiff. For that reason I was leaning away from the gas-a-just ones for the bus.


If you can get me the part numbers, I'll see how cheap I can get them for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LivinInnaVWBus wrote:
Vee Dub Nut wrote:
Brian wrote:
I'd just bite the bullet and get an early box. But get it from someone, not some company. Only if you have to.

Yea, go KYB. I did Gas-a-just up front and excel-g in the rear. Should have done all four Gas-a-just though.


Any reason you'd go all gas-a-just over the excel-g's? I can get the excel-g's pretty cheap from rockauto

I always had really good luck with real basic oil filled shocks on my beetle. The gas shocks made it too stiff. For that reason I was leaning away from the gas-a-just ones for the bus.


If you can get me the part numbers, I'll see how cheap I can get them for you.


I'll look them up and send them over... I'm not in a big hurry though. Sorta tapped out funding wise getting to this point. So I've got to let the dust settle a bit before I resume buying more parts LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vee Dub Nut wrote:
LivinInnaVWBus wrote:
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Brian wrote:
I'd just bite the bullet and get an early box. But get it from someone, not some company. Only if you have to.

Yea, go KYB. I did Gas-a-just up front and excel-g in the rear. Should have done all four Gas-a-just though.


Any reason you'd go all gas-a-just over the excel-g's? I can get the excel-g's pretty cheap from rockauto

I always had really good luck with real basic oil filled shocks on my beetle. The gas shocks made it too stiff. For that reason I was leaning away from the gas-a-just ones for the bus.


If you can get me the part numbers, I'll see how cheap I can get them for you.


I'll look them up and send them over... I'm not in a big hurry though. Sorta tapped out funding wise getting to this point. So I've got to let the dust settle a bit before I resume buying more parts LOL


No big deal, just post them up here and I'll post a price for others as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KYB Excel-G shocks for a 68:

Front: KYB Part # 343144
Rear: KYB Part # 344045
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run the gas-a-just and think they are great. They feel great on a off road and handle a loaded bus well. They might be a good match for your westy since westy are heavier then a regular bus. I got my steering box from Bus Boys. It's nice and tight and the price was good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vee Dub Nut wrote:
KYB Excel-G shocks for a 68:

Front: KYB Part # 343144
Rear: KYB Part # 344045


343144 $18.97
344045 $26.26
Prices are shipped, please keep in mind they are subject to change over time.
FYI, I've used these in a Thing and they were pretty rough, but that is obviously a much lighter vehicle.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I finally got a chance to crawl under the Bus and pull off the belly pan to inspect the steering. As I suspected, the steering box itself is the issue. The drag link looks to have been replaced whenever the PO did the tie rods. The issue I'm seeing is a clear radial movement of the steering box output shaft before it tries to rotate with steering input. This movement is also the source of the popping noise I hear with steering input. Looking into options for replacement. I suspect this one will need machining to correct that is beyond a DIY rebuild. Any thoughts here?

Otherwise we've been enjoying the Bus making short little runs around the local area. Still planning a longer get away (also waiting for a break in the heat Rolling Eyes )
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.wolfgangint.com/store/product/steering-boxes-211415049fwg/

Steering Box Rebuilding

73-79 TRW Steering Box in a 68-72 (demon1018)

Steering box lube

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are great links Tcash, you always come through. I contacted Wolfgang and they will not ship you the new box until they receive your old box/core. This is the reason I went with Bus Boys.

VDN, did you choose shocks yet? My gas-a-justs performed very well on my off road trip. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richparker wrote:
I contacted Wolfgang and they will not ship you the new box until they receive your old box/core. This is the reason I went with Bus Boys.

Ya good cores are drying up. JK was getting repopped RHD box's. But I don't see them anymore. I was hoping the worm and peg out of those would work in the LHD.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

richparker wrote:
Those are great links Tcash, you always come through. I contacted Wolfgang and they will not ship you the new box until they receive your old box/core. This is the reason I went with Bus Boys.

VDN, did you choose shocks yet? My gas-a-justs performed very well on my off road trip. Smile


No shock choice yet.. Still running on the shocks that were on it. Need to tackle some of the more important things first.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on the links Tcash.. Always helpful.

I'm really on the fence regarding the steering box. For the same price, I have two options:

-Get a rebuilt early box from bus boys/wolfgang

-Or pickup a new late model box and drop arm and convert mine to the late style box

I'm having trouble with the pros and cons on each. I've heard a lot of hit or miss stories on the steering box rebuilds. I don't want to drop $300+ for an old box with new paint, but I also don't want to go through the trouble to adapt to the new style box if the new ones quality is not there either. I haven't found any great info on the difference between the early or late style boxes. Is one inherently better than the other?
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