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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject: EMPI Camber Compensator Parts Reply with quote

I'm looking for the center bushing (indicated by red arrow) for an EMPI camber compensator

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Someone who can repop them using my NOS piece as a template.

Anyone know where they can be found? I've got two of these compensators and only one center bushing.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there just not that many of these out there anymore?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the bushing made out of? I might be able to reproduce it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's made of rubber and has an internal threaded piece in the center.

I'll post up photos and dimensions when I get home on Saturday.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Eric Outland ([email protected]) still selling camber compensator parts? Maybe he would have it, or know a source.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made mine from a rubber plug from the hardware store:
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One concern is that I don't know if the rubber is the correct hardness.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears the threaded insert (embedded in the rubber) is used in the design so that you can back out bolt "C" to remove it, thus allowing you to drain the oil by removing just the one bolt.

If you substituted a simple bolt/rubber bushing/washer/locknut assembly instead, you could probably use any old rubber/urethane hunk, drilled and cut to fit.

You might then have to remove the crossbar to get drain plug access, but how often do you need to do that? The fill plug is removed more often to check the level; the drain plug, not so much.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

t3kg wrote:
Is Eric Outland ([email protected]) still selling camber compensator parts? Maybe he would have it, or know a source.


That's his name! I couldn't remember...last time I contacted him about the straps a while back he didn't have them and seemed to be winding down. I'll contact him and see if he's got a source.

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I made mine from a rubber plug from the hardware store:
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One concern is that I don't know if the rubber is the correct hardness.


This will be the route I'll take if I can't find a proper piece. I went to Lowe's and had a look around at my options.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roughly 36mm in diameter, 17mm thick
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Looks like a real thick washer/spacer with an internal thread.
M6x30 is what I have for a fastener. The instructions I scanned show a hex head cap screw but I have a round cap screw with a screwdriver slot.
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This hole is 9mm in diameter:
If you look REALLY closely, you can see the seat for this thing. It's about 1mm - although I'm sure that grows in size as it's compressed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The instructions I scanned show a hex ead cap screw but I have a round cap screw with a screwdriver slot.
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My original had that same screw too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have another question:

How long is the bar supposed to be?

My NOS camber compensator is rougly 31" long. The other one, which looked to be original, is closer to 34" long.

Did EMPI make different length compensator bars?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have an original here and the length of the bar is approximately 35.5" from eye to eye.

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There are many differences. Split case trans uses a completely different center bracket (smaller) that will not work on a tunnel trans & vise versa. There were also atleast 4 different widths. Early Bus (1963 & older). Late Bus (1964-67). Short axle Bug/Ghia. Long axle Bug/Ghia. There was also a completely different center bracket for Type 3 in the later production runs.


I don't know what lengths are for what vehicle in his list above.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So my short one is probably for a Type 1...well, that sucks.

I noticed that he said that the Bus version was 37" long.

Thanks for posting up the information.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ataraxia wrote:
So my short one is probably for a Type 1...well, that sucks.

I noticed that he said that the Bus version was 37" long.

Thanks for posting up the information.


Th 31 inch one is probably for a short axle bug or ghia up thru 65.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobnotch wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
So my short one is probably for a Type 1...well, that sucks.

I noticed that he said that the Bus version was 37" long.

Thanks for posting up the information.


Th 31 inch one is probably for a short axle bug or ghia up thru 65.


Yeah, that was my guess...looks like it'll be up for sale soon! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently picked this Camber Compensator up at a swap meet. I hadn't even considered that different models would require different compensators, I just assumed they were all the same. It does have a patent number stamped on it that matches the EMPI versions, but doesn't have any other identifying marks on it. Also, it measures out to just under 37".

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I recently picked this Camber Compensator up at a swap meet. I hadn't even considered that different models would require different compensators, I just assumed they were all the same. It does have a patent number stamped on it that matches the EMPI versions, but doesn't have any other identifying marks on it. Also, it measures out to just under 37".


I recently learned this myself when I brought my recently powder coated bar back to compare with the NOS unit I bought a few months ago. I never really thought that it would be shorter than the one I was restoring.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The version you have mounts to the frame horns, correct?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The version you have mounts to the frame horns, correct?


Correct. But the bar that spans the axles should be the same design.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never knew about the different lengths either. I'd like to submit my application for membership to the short axle club. The NOS compensator I have is 31 in. wide.

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Hmmm....widened wide 5 steelies on short axles...? Twisted Evil
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