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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:15 pm    Post subject: Empi hex bar needle bearings... Reply with quote

I know Empi get a lot of shit on here, and sometimes deservedly so....

I just emailed empi in the us to find out about replacing bushes on my 34ict linkage - got a reply back almost instantly with the part number I needed and also a suggestion to look at a needle bearing conversion kit - this one...

http://www.dansperformanceparts.com/empi-44-1127-hex-bar-linkage-needle-bearing-conversion-kit.html

1st off, props to empi for the customer service, and second - has anyone installed one of these? I think it might make a fair to middling linkage kit a lot better...it would certainly address one of the weaknesses with the kit - the means of securing the throttle cable being the other major.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have not used to needle bearing kit.
For the cable end.
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For future reference. Cut the cable with a cable cutter, or tape the cable tight with electrical tape and cut with a 32 fine tooth hacksaw.
Solder the end and install it in the throttle cable end or extension. The one with the screw in it.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know if that roller kit would work with the CB linkage?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tcash wrote:
Have not used to needle bearing kit.
For the cable end.
Tcash wrote:
For future reference. Cut the cable with a cable cutter, or tape the cable tight with electrical tape and cut with a 32 fine tooth hacksaw.
Solder the end and install it in the throttle cable end or extension. The one with the screw in it.

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Yep, that's roughly what I do, but I still think it's a little shit. If you take a look at a decent bike derailleur they have a much better cable clamping system that means you don't have to cut the cable first. I'm thinking of hanging something like that - a notched square washer clamped by another washer - into the grub screw hole and seeing how that flies. You can then cut the cable end and put a nice crimp on it - no chance of an unravelled cable or cable fibres shredded by the grub screw...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or a Compression stud fitting in the right size.
http://hayn.com/marine/rigging/himod.html
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clatter wrote:
Anyone know if that roller kit would work with the CB linkage?


More than likely. HPMX Deluxe kits are full blown Weber IDF clones. Not Knock-offs, clones. I can see why you'd need them for longevity after your lubed nylon bushings wear out after 50k+ miles.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not being a smart arse - genuine question. I thought nylon was self lubricating?

The cup size and threads in the bar ends for the CB performance linkage would have to be the same as for the empi one - don't know if that's the case?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I got mine, it came with some grease to put in the cups.

Good question on the threads.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been so long since mine went in I've forgotten... I think I'm up to about 35-40k on them, something like that. There's been a bit of lateral play in one side for a while and the cup's worn through - not sure if this has been accelerated after I double-sprung the return arms, but there's certainly more tension on the linkage than stock...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lateral should be adjustable is it not? I haven't seen a CB bar in person.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry - I should be clearer - fore and aft movement within the cup on one side where the cup's been wearing through.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Empi hex bar needle bearings... Reply with quote

The EMPI book says their linkage kits with the needle bearings fit Weber, Dellorto. Id just get the whole kit. I just did a quick search and the whole kit is only $30 bucks more than just the needle bearing kit.
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