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Tcash
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Location: San Jose, California, USA
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 Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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Compare your M-Code to this one.
http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-29115.htm
I do not know why code 723 is not printed on yours. It is part of the D09 collection.
I would think it is a CEI?
723 Special sales campaign for 'Champagne Edition 1', paint color Agata Brown (L86Z) whith Atlas White roof, interior cloth in Parchment (beige grey) (1977)
Good luck
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Tcash
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Location: San Jose, California, USA
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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When I right click on the picture you posted. The picture pops up.
You have to copy and paste the whole address located under the picture.
spaces added to keep it from posting
[URL =http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-33728.htm][IMG]http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate2-33728.png [/IMG][/URL]
Good luck
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secretsubmariner
Champagne Wrangler
Joined: January 08, 2011
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Location: Tulsa, OK
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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| I finally got around to checking the M-plate on my rusty '77 and it turns out I think it is a CEI. |
CC, you got any pics of the bus? If so, let's see them
Does it have any remnants of the interior?
The code for the Champagne isn't highlighted on your decoded plate, which makes me think it isn't a bubbly beaut.
What about the bus specifically makes you think it is a Champagne?
Sorry for the interrogation, but you can't wrangle a champagne without a lil bit of detective work. 
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secretsubmariner
Champagne Wrangler
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Location: Tulsa, OK
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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Super bummed about these guys...It looks as though we may never know their data, or save them. If anyone is in the San Antonio area, and feels like doing some of their own detective work, please look this place up and get back to me!
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It and its brother are down the street from you in San Antonio at Volksmith. A dead VW service shop. No Entrada for may years. The owner is now in a home - no know idea of whats going to happen with it all. Look under Texas Gold in the samba gallery.
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Tcash
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Mr.West
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Location: Springfield, IL
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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Just picked her up this weekend!
http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-33991.htm
secretsubmariner it wasn't to far from you. Picked her up in Grove, OK
This is my first ever Westy and I couldn't be more stoked about it!!
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Alan Brase
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Posts: 4532
Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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Funny, did no one mention this one, 082027, on Ebay?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Volkswagen-Bus-Vanago...7675.l2557
Looks pretty nice, but for moderate nose damage.
I should buy this myself, (but not a good time personally), I have near complete interior and a pretty good CEII nose. OE paint, but not much of it!
I would add to this conversation, that I personally feel there must have been a few thousand of these built, at least.
I bought mine in 1982, from the original owner and got all the paperwork (alas, lost the paperwork in divorce chaos and the bus is long ago cut up being extremely rusty).
Back in the day, I remember seeing CE Westies and at least one other 78 CE II, in Cascade, eastern Iowa (and it was a beauty!).
My guess would be more like 2 every dealer, tho I do not remember seeing any at our local dealer (but I didn't get my first bus till 1982, so was not watching the dealer that close before that.)
Further, since joining theSamba in early 2000's, I have seen a LOT of cut up ones being sold for parts in the classifieds. Really bothered me because they were way better than mine!
I remember one with a Riviera camper conversion in Colorado, could have been bought for less than $1000. That would be my favorite configuration.
Al
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Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
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couchinator75
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Location: Portland, OR
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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I may have another 77 to add to the list. The m code plate is missing but everything points to CE l
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Tcash
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Alan Brase
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Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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Pretty nice car. They NEVER came with whitewall from new. AFAIK, no tire company made C6PR tires in whitewalls. They look wrong anyway. Too effete.
BUT, I think they DID all have wheel cover trim rings. Further the stripes on this car are not quite right. One was quite pink, as I remember. Nearly all faded badly.
Al
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Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
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alman72
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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don't know if this is the right place for this, but a couple of champ benches on CL with the middle bench in pretty good shape
http://huntington.craigslist.org/pts/5722007398.html |
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Cudakota
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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Hello I would like to add my 77 bus to the list. I believe it is a ce1 as well? sorry if I mess this post up as it is my first one here 
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foxmon
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Location: Maine
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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Hi All, great thread!
Here is my January, 1978 CE II Westfalia. It was titled by the first owner April, 1979, and I purchased it from him June, 1989. My third camper, fourth bus, and first automatic gearbox!
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Collie
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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| Alright! Another CEII automatic!! |
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vwwestyman
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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| vwwestyman wrote: |
Something I was thinking about recently.
Anyone have any speculation or information about why VW/Westfalia went with the CEI paint scheme for campers in 1978 vs the paint scheme that standard 1978 CEII buses got? |
No, but wait- a Riviera built from a CEII is a better camper anyway. Well, ASI's interiors were cheesier than Westy's.
I believe ASI did build a few from Champagnes. I've seen a few being parted.
Al
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Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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foxmon
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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Something I was thinking about recently.
Anyone have any speculation or information about why VW/Westfalia went with the CEI paint scheme for campers in 1978 vs the paint scheme that standard 1978 CEII buses got? |
speculation: the color worked better with the pop-top
1977 CE I Brochure: "20 mpg in the city/28 out on the highway" ?!
Volkswagen has been cheating for a long time... |
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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| vwwestyman wrote: |
Something I was thinking about recently.
Anyone have any speculation or information about why VW/Westfalia went with the CEI paint scheme for campers in 1978 vs the paint scheme that standard 1978 CEII buses got? |
speculation: the color worked better with the pop-top
1977 CE I Brochure: "20 mpg in the city/28 out on the highway" ?!
Volkswagen has been cheating for a long time... |
I think you might be onto something. It was not til 1984 (?) that they started painting Westy tops to the body color or at least not bright white.
Al
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Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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foxmon
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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| btw I don't have CE I paint scheme; Pastel white not Atlas white |
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KMT
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Definitive T2 Champagne Edition Information Thread |
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I am starting to work on My '78 after finally getting to Asheville. Is there a good source for replacement front door panels and carpet? I want to try and get as close to the original as possible.
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