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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

hey guys . are there different types of handbrake cables for split buses? thanks in advance . neil
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Wolfburg West:

211609701F EMERGENCY BRAKE CABLE, 1964-1967 Bus, German, fits left and right, each, 3465mm/136.4 inches 211609701F
211609701E EMERGENCY BRAKE CABLE, 1960 (1960 Bus, starting at chassis # 614456) -1963 Bus, made by Wolfsburg West, fits left and right, each, 3460mm/132.3 inches 211609701E
211609701C EMERGENCY BRAKE CABLE, 1959 (1959 Bus, startingat chassis # 501707) -1960 (1960 Bus throughchassis # 614455) Bus, made by Wolfsburg West, fits left and right, each, 3330mm/131.1 inches 211609701C
211609701B EMERGENCY BRAKE CABLE, 1955 (1955 Bus, starting at chassis # 20-117903) -1959 (1959 Bus through chassis # 501706) Bus, made by Wolfsburg West, fits left and right, each, 3168mm/124.7 inches 211609701B
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm. thought i just answered that exact question with that exact WW info in chat earlier. de ja vu Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

Based on my chassis number, 631xxx, I ordered the 60-63 cables for my bus.
They bottom out as if the cables and the springs are too long.
I know the cables are 1.2 inches longer, and that my bus should take the earlier cables, despite what the chassis number is, but is there a difference in the backing plate or cable mounting hardware?
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

npbusguy wrote:
Based on my chassis number, 631xxx, I ordered the 60-63 cables for my bus.
They bottom out as if the cables and the springs are too long.
I know the cables are 1.2 inches longer, and that my bus should take the earlier cables, despite what the chassis number is, but is there a difference in the backing plate or cable mounting hardware?


Which transaxle setup did you go with (don’t recall reading in your build thread): small or big nut rgbs? Does your e-brake adjustment happen above or below the front floor? I can’t recall the cutoff in ‘60.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

Small nut reduction boxes and adjustment above the floor.
It is like the springs are too long and won't let the cable pull tight enough.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

I just got the longer cables, figured out how much too long, cut them where they are suspended below the seat pedestal, and joined the sections with four sets of cable clamps, two per overlapping cable. I've never managed to have the right combination of front lever, rear e-brake parts, and cable to all match up.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

I've lowered my bus and I replaced the transaxle for a modern bug trans, which of the options of WW would be used in my case?, How can I determine the correct length of the cable to use?
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me the stock spring length on a 60-63 E-brake cable?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2019 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

Dann Tellez wrote:
I've lowered my bus and I replaced the transaxle for a modern bug trans, which of the options of WW would be used in my case?, How can I determine the correct length of the cable to use?


Would help greatly to know the year of the bus.... Then would try that appropriate matching year cable and see if it will fit with the rear brakes you have.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2019 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

Dann Tellez wrote:
I've lowered my bus and I replaced the transaxle for a modern bug trans, which of the options of WW would be used in my case?, How can I determine the correct length of the cable to use?


Also might try the link thru this:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=558906&highlight=emergency+brake
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

Eric&Barb wrote:
Dann Tellez wrote:
I've lowered my bus and I replaced the transaxle for a modern bug trans, which of the options of WW would be used in my case?, How can I determine the correct length of the cable to use?


Would help greatly to know the year of the bus.... Then would try that appropriate matching year cable and see if it will fit with the rear brakes you have.


Thanks, I´m gonna use it on a ´65 bus... Is it possible to make an adjustment on the cable in case it gets too short or too long? I have no enough experience on brakes..... Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: split bus , handbrake cables Reply with quote

Well j.pickens posted above about how he shortened his.


For another way to shorten:

From a "Search" for "Brake Cable":

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=222339&highlight=brake+cable

More info to convert the cables:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128115&highlight=wire+rope

To lengthen one could see if the above mentioned shops can add in the length required.

Think the big problem you are going to face is if the rear ends of the parking brake cable bowden tubes will fit into beetle brake backing plates.

Additionally beetle brakes are a lot less powerful than bus stock brakes from late 1955 on. You might want to upgrade to rear disc setup instead.
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