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ryanwade95
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 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:10 pm Post subject: 1990 Automatic Westfalia, 2 issues... |
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the main issue that i've noticed is that when the van hasn't been started for awhile, like over 12 hours, when I turn the key, all the lights and the fuel pump buzzes as it should, but it sometimes takes 5 or 6 seconds, even longer sometimes.. to spark and turn over, and starts fine, it's just that there is a pretty solid delay. Not sure if it has to do with my starter, it's certainly not my battery I would guess because everything functions great other than the delay.
and the second thing is, when I start my van on cold, when it is in PARK it will make this really loud vibrating noise, but when I take it out of PARK it stops... it's very weird and can't be normal.
any suggestions or ideas welcome
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Ahwahnee
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: 1990 Automatic Westfalia, 2 issues... |
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| ...it's certainly not my battery I would guess because everything functions great other than the delay... |
The current required to operate the fuel pump, buzzers, etc is miniscule compared to what the starter demands.
Could be other issues (ignition switch, bad grounds, dying starter, etc) but you also shouldn't rule out the battery just yet. |
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ThankYouJerry
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1990 Automatic Westfalia, 2 issues... |
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Also check your neutral safety switch. If it's not aligned just right it can cause starting issues. First, try starting the van in neutral and see if it behaves the same way.
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Merian
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: 1990 Automatic Westfalia, 2 issues... |
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go to an electrical shop (not a parts house) and get the battery tested
he will have a big thing on a wheeled cart called a load tester -- the little hand held units are not as good a tester
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:29 am Post subject: Re: 1990 Automatic Westfalia, 2 issues... |
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It is easy enough to unplug the ignition switch harness and since you can replicate the problem overnight, try using a piece of wire to jump the ignition harness. If the delay is gone, you should suspect the ignition switch. Delay still there, time to move on. You access the ignition switch harness by dropping the lower steering column cover.
From memory, the starter wires on the ignition switch are the two heavy gauge/ thick wires. One is Red, the other is Red with a black tracer. Don't expect the van to run. It will only crank. It should crank each time you make the jump. Don't use a paper clip. You'll probably burn your fingers. Use a similar size piece of wire. One with spade connectors would make a handy tool. Report back.
Before pulling the cover, try starting with the selector in neutral. It uses a different part of the neutral safety switch located at the base of the shift lever. It can also be easily bypassed with a jumper wire, but start at the ignition switch and work from there.
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