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Evil_Fiz Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2011 Posts: 1031 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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@xzener: 10-4, thanks.
I was wondering how it got hit so hard as to dent it without damaging the surrounding tissue.
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Emil _________________
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Evil_Fiz Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2011 Posts: 1031 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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It's me again... I have a head scratcher this time.
What's wrong with this picture?
Answer
A few days ago I noticed air leaking from the fitting on the exit side of my compressor aftercooler. When I went to remove it today to apply Teflon paste and re-tighten it I found the brass NPT/Flare flitting cracked and held in place by a sliver and the copper line attached to it. This is the COLD side that barely gets 10* above ambient.
I am looking for ideas on how to remove the brass piece stuck in the cooler (the cooler threads are aluminum.)
I am also curious if anyone has a theory about why it cracked the way it did.
Thanks,
Emil _________________
It's not just about what's interesting. It's also about what's helpful, and it's helpful even if it helps just one other guy working on a Ghia.
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crazy tarzan Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2011 Posts: 109 Location: Wyoming
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:48 am Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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find an appropriate sized easy out for the remnant -- since the other part simply cracked/sheared off you should be able to back it out (make sure you hit it with some penetrating oil too).
My guess is the fitting had a flaw in in, and when tightening the first time it compounded the problem. Then add in the heat/cool cycles from the compressor running and it finished it off. But again simply speculation. |
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Tanoki Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2010 Posts: 88 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Ha Emil,
Great project you are working on!
My compliments on the way you are documenting your progress!
Best of luck and most of all, keep having fun!
Greets! _________________ Let me know the rules so I can ignore them
My Ghia build : https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=703728 |
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Evil_Fiz Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2011 Posts: 1031 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Since my last update, I have spent roughly 21 hrs. removing paint and 4 Hrs. disassembling the donor storage area floor section. Today I will most likely finish stripping the nose area and the area behind the dash. I have been using a combination of CiriStrip, razor blades, and a scouring pad to remove the paint from these less than flat areas. I have also been using a 3" crimped wire cup brush on the grinder where possible.
I am debating whether to remove the paint in the rear quarter panel cavities or simply prep and prime over the OG paint. I have found "Factory" rust under paint in places I did not expect and I know there is some in the cavity behind the passenger "B" pillar. I will hold off on deciding until I get my tilt dolly built. (I am leaning towards removal)
I had toyed with the idea of building the tilt dolly out of 4x4s and 4x6s reinforced with recycled bed rails because I don't have a way to transport large pieces of steel tubing. The solution to this limitation presented itself when watching a YouTube video on metal shaping. There is a company called Metal Supermarket that sells tubing cut to size for a reasonable price and they recently opened a store in North Jacksonville, FL. Now I can do it the right way.
Here are some pictures of the progress.
Rockers and "B" pillars
Back seat area
Trunk and Nose area
Dash, Under-dash, and "A" pillar area
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Emil _________________
It's not just about what's interesting. It's also about what's helpful, and it's helpful even if it helps just one other guy working on a Ghia.
kiwighia68
See my build on TheSamba at:
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Holy shit, you're insane!
Hose that thing down with a couple gallons of WD40 or it'll have a beautiful satin brown finish by the end of the week (if not day (especially where your skin has come in contact with it.).).
Be sure to plug those holes on top of the rocker panel/threshold towards the rear of the door opening, by design, that's where water enters the heater channel. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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vw.dodge Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2008 Posts: 33 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Wow Emil, you must have a lot of time invested! Im glad to see it happening since it sat in my shop for so many years! But I do need to ask (after the fact): do you think it would have been more cost effective (considering time invested and all) to have the whole body dunked in the tank? |
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Evil_Fiz Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2011 Posts: 1031 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
...Hose that thing down with a couple gallons of WD40 or it'll have a beautiful satin brown finish by the end of the week (if not day (especially where your skin has come in contact with it.) |
The outer body panels, rockers. "A" and "B" pillars, dash, and under-dash area have all been treated with Eastwood After Blast (Phosphoric acid, Zinc Phosphate, and cleaners.) Surprisingly the back seat area has been bare for about two weeks and the trunk area for about one week. The smooth metal is less susceptible to surface rust than blasted or sanded metal, but yes I (hopefully) will be treating those areas tomorrow with After Blast.
I was told by one of the techs at Southern Polyurethane Inc. to never use WD-40 anywhere near where painting will be done and especially not on panels that will be painted. Have you had any issues painting over metal that was treated with WD-40 and properly cleaned prior to paint?
TDCTDI wrote: |
...Be sure to plug those holes on top of the rocker panel/threshold towards the rear of the door opening, by design, that's where water enters the heater channel. |
Too late... but fortunately I removed the paint from the rocker with a wire cup brush on the grinder. They were done long before I started stripping the paint. I have to open up the rockers to do rust repairs and I plan to clean and treat the interior when I do.
vw.dodge wrote: |
Wow Emil, you must have a lot of time invested! Im glad to see it happening since it sat in my shop for so many years! |
I have approximately 64 Hrs. invested in paint and surface rust removal so far and about $175 in materials. The time invested is "hobby time" that gets me away from sitting at a computer all day (IT desk job) and I have the satisfaction of doing the work myself. I know it's not for everyone but since I don't drive anymore, building the car is my way of deriving satisfaction from it.
vw.dodge wrote: |
...But I do need to ask (after the fact): do you think it would have been more cost effective (considering time invested and all) to have the whole body dunked in the tank? |
Media blasting would cost about $1200 and dipping would cost about $2500 plus transportation to and from Orlando, FL. I seriously considered dipping the car but feared that paint/primer would get removed from places I could not re-treat AND (this is the big one) I have more time than cash.
Update:
I ran out of steam after three Hrs. of scraping and scrubbing the nose area and part of the "behind the dash" area so I will finish it tomorrow and then hopefully I can treat the bare metal areas with After Blast.
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Emil _________________
It's not just about what's interesting. It's also about what's helpful, and it's helpful even if it helps just one other guy working on a Ghia.
kiwighia68
See my build on TheSamba at:
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Onceler Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2010 Posts: 1646 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Wow, that's a lot of work, done it myself before, have you tried these? Seem to work pretty good.
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Evil_Fiz Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2011 Posts: 1031 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Onceler wrote: |
Wow, that's a lot of work, done it myself before, have you tried these? Seem to work pretty good... |
Yup, sure have, I used those to remove filler on the body and undercoating in the wheel wells. I have two sitting on the shelf waiting to report for active duty. The problem is that the areas I have left to do are tight spaces with very few flat areas. The coarse souring pads with paint remover work exceptionally well. The CitriStrip is non-toxid so it dosen't matter if I get any on me. I just have to let it work overnight.
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Emil _________________
It's not just about what's interesting. It's also about what's helpful, and it's helpful even if it helps just one other guy working on a Ghia.
kiwighia68
See my build on TheSamba at:
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vw.dodge Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2008 Posts: 33 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Keep on truckin! I dont know how many others are following this, but I for one am impressed and look forward to every new post! |
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CiderGuy Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2013 Posts: 1351 Location: Bucks County, Pa
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Onceler wrote: |
Wow, that's a lot of work, done it myself before, have you tried these? Seem to work pretty good.
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I love theses. They eat through paint and lightly applied Bondo. |
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2867 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Evil_Fiz wrote: |
vw.dodge wrote: |
Wow Emil, you must have a lot of time invested! Im glad to see it happening since it sat in my shop for so many years! |
I have approximately 64 Hrs. invested in paint and surface rust removal so far and about $175 in materials. The time invested is "hobby time" that gets me away from sitting at a computer all day (IT desk job) and I have the satisfaction of doing the work myself. I know it's not for everyone but since I don't drive anymore, building the car is my way of deriving satisfaction from it.
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I fully agree with your approach, Emil. It's all about the satisfaction you derive from doing the job yourself. It's like running a marathon: There's no real point in it considering the time and effort spent in training, but at the finish line you know that there's nothing you cannot do when you put your mind to it.
I love your thread and I respect your attitude. Power to your arm! _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
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Canghia Samba Member
Joined: June 27, 2017 Posts: 70 Location: Toronto Ontario
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:41 am Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Thanks for the progress pics. Mine is in similar condition and i am stripping it similarly as I move along. That fiber disc is my favourite way of removing old paint and light bondo. Works great. I found that if you strip paint chemically and do not mechanically disturb the original under surface with the disc or wire wheel, rust does not set it for a while. I stripped most of my Ghia last summer with aircraft paint remover and left it uncoated since then and I do not have any rust developing. I do keep my project in the garage and wheel it out on nice days. I live in southern Ontario and our humidity levels are similar to midwest humidity levels. The original rust treatment that was applied at the factory works well to prevent surface rust. However disturb that coating and all bets are off. I recall reading and seeing a picture of VWs being dipped into a galvanizing bath or or some other kind of rust coating prior to paint.
Keep moving along. Like you, I enjoy doing the work, working at it when I can, stopping when frustrated but I do it as a form of mental therapy. When asked when it will be ready I reply, when it's ready. Mark |
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Evil_Fiz Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2011 Posts: 1031 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:19 am Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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I'm glad people are enjoying the thread. I sincerely appreciate all the supportive and contributory comments, they help bring me down from the tree when I get frustrated.
Thank you kindly, we're all in this together
Emil _________________
It's not just about what's interesting. It's also about what's helpful, and it's helpful even if it helps just one other guy working on a Ghia.
kiwighia68
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Evil_Fiz Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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c21darrel wrote: |
...Your "clean" metal looks very good!! behind the back seat area
. not so much. |
Yup. Fortunately the PO included a complete luggage compartment donor.
I already removed the convertible seat back supports from the car, hence the big holes at the corners in the pictures above. I will be tackling replacement project once I am done with the paint removal and I get my tilt dolly built. I hope to rescue the parts I don't use from it to pass them on to a deserving home.
Donor section included with the car
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It's not just about what's interesting. It's also about what's helpful, and it's helpful even if it helps just one other guy working on a Ghia.
kiwighia68
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Evil_Fiz Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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SISTER MARY FRANCIS...
I think it would have been less exhausting and far less difficult to mow a 2 acre hillside at a 50% grade using a non-self propelled 22" lawnmower than it was to strip and rust-protect the entire under hood area. And I still have some sand blasting to do in the hard to reach recesses. By comparison the back seat area and engine compartment will be a breeze.
I'm glad i decided to strip this area since I found a fair bit of surface rust and pitting that had to go. Some rust repairs will be needed on the underside of the nose but that will have to wiat for the tilt dolly to get built using now overpriced steel... but tariffs are good right?
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Emil _________________
It's not just about what's interesting. It's also about what's helpful, and it's helpful even if it helps just one other guy working on a Ghia.
kiwighia68
See my build on TheSamba at:
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Peter D. Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2004 Posts: 718 Location: Stamford, CT
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Nice work! There's a guy in my area who does dustless blasting but I understand that leaves behind a ton of residue. Sanding by hand seems much more satisfying. _________________ 2019 Golf Alltrack, '65 Ghia Coupe Restoration in Progress |
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Evil_Fiz Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:47 am Post subject: Re: The K_R_A_K_E_N_N : a 70 Ghia Convertible reinterpreted |
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Peter D. wrote: |
...There's a guy in my area who does dustless blasting but I understand that leaves behind a ton of residue. Sanding by hand seems much more satisfying. |
Doing the work yourself IS satisfying and less costly from a $$$ perspective but is is boring, tedious, time consuming, and tiring. The nose and behind-the-dash area have been particularly "all of the above." I don't discourage manually stripping the body but recognize the value of dustless blasting if done properly.
Here are some pics to document the engine bay and trunk area. Both have been stripped and treated.
Engine Bay
Behing the dash
Spare tire well
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Emil _________________
It's not just about what's interesting. It's also about what's helpful, and it's helpful even if it helps just one other guy working on a Ghia.
kiwighia68
See my build on TheSamba at:
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