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Digamyrior10
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 Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:36 pm Post subject: Fuel Pump |
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What modern fuel pumps are people using on FI type 3’s?
Years back after getting through countless used original Bosch units (they never lasted long), I shipped a new US Ford Ranger pump. It fit and worked well and lasted ten years but now that’s given up so looking at new options.
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Pump |
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Most of us are using a version of the 86-90 ford ranger pump. Whether it's the E2000 Airtex brand (Autozone) or the E16020 Precision brand pump (Reilly's). Note these are in-out pumps and you remove the "Y" fitting from the return line. Do a search on here for: Blankety blank pumps, to see how to plumb it in, along with a short list of alternate pumps. Note, I prefer to buy my pumps locally in case I have a problem with it (like a leak). I hope this helps.
Edit, somone on here found a Carquest pump that's available from most Advanced Auto parts stores too, but I don't have the part number for it.
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akokarski
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| Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Pump |
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you know years ago I had issues with my fuel pump and went the same route, e2000. It worked fine, but was so obnoxiously loud I could not stand it.
Had it swapped for a pump that I believe is for a bus and it's super quite like stock. The price wasn't prohibitively expensive and maybe was a bit more than e2000.
The only draw back is having to bump the key to get the pressure up, but that's the same thing with e2000 as well. I haven't figured out where where exactly I am losing the pressure, at the pump or the FPR, but I do have a new FPR.
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Yesterday 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Pump |
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| akokarski wrote: |
you know years ago I had issues with my fuel pump and went the same route, e2000. It worked fine, but was so obnoxiously loud I could not stand it.
Had it swapped for a pump that I believe is for a bus and it's super quite like stock. The price wasn't prohibitively expensive and maybe was a bit more than e2000.
The only draw back is having to bump the key to get the pressure up, but that's the same thing with e2000 as well. I haven't figured out where where exactly I am losing the pressure, at the pump or the FPR, but I do have a new FPR.
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With the e2000 and with many other generic fuel injection pumps, you have to be sure that the pump you buy has a check valve on its outlet. Many of the generic pumps do not have one because it assumes that either your system has one upstream of the pump or you will buy and install the one that fits your plumbing.
I have seen just as many e2000's out there with no check valve as those with.
Also, not note that your FPR is new. How new? Is it Bosch or a premium brand or generic. I ask because too many people believe that because the original FPR worked for decades ....that a new one that was installed just 2-3 years ago is "new". Aside from possible changes in build quality, modern gasoline with ethanol can rapidly damage a regulator especially if the car is not driven fairly regularly.
There are three basic places your static fuel pressure can leak down:
1. At the pump. No check valve or a leaking check valve.
2. At the fuel pressure regulator. The FPR is a check valve.
3. At any of the injectors including the cold start valve.
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akokarski
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| Posted: Yesterday 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Pump |
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I am not sure if there is a built in check valve in the bus pump. My FPR is delphi I think what I am out to do is install the pressure gauge on the test port, then clamp at various sections, on the pressure side and relief side and see which one bleeds. Just one of the bunch of little things to do...  |
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Today 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Pump |
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| akokarski wrote: |
| I am not sure if there is a built in check valve in the bus pump. My FPR is delphi I think what I am out to do is install the pressure gauge on the test port, then clamp at various sections, on the pressure side and relief side and see which one bleeds. Just one of the bunch of little things to do... |
Yes!
As for the Delphi regulator, I just don't know. In general, Delphi makes pretty good parts.
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akokarski
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| Posted: Today 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Pump |
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Ray,
Is there a check valve that can be added in case the pump doesn’t have one?
Thanks,
Anton |
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