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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:45 pm    Post subject: captured nut? Reply with quote

I am attempting to replace the shocks in the rear of my '69 SQB. It appears the bolt for the top of the shock threads into a spinning captured nut inside the upper portion of the subframe. Is there a trick to this, or am I cutting the frame open to access and welding it shut again post R&R?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: captured nut? Reply with quote

Probably.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: captured nut? Reply with quote

I'll report back. I had hoped there was some secret with respect to the bump-stop pad being removable, but it appears not to be.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: captured nut? Reply with quote

Shortest Bobnotch reply ever? Laughing
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PostPosted: Yesterday 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: captured nut? Reply with quote

Turns out VW spot welded a simple "wrench" over the internal nut in the upper rear shock tower. I guess they didn't have wire or rod welding capability on their assembly line, only spot welding which would explain this poor approach to a captured nut. Once rusted the bolt spins the nut and the "wrench". Another scenario (likely mine) the bolt rusts onto the bush inside the upper shock. When you spin the bolt it can't move outwards, so the internal nut moves inwards forcing itself out from the "wrench"

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For the love of Mike people, please replace your shocks if they look at all rusty. These look to be original and well composted.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: captured nut? Reply with quote

squaretobehip wrote:
Shortest Bobnotch reply ever? Laughing


That happens. Laughing
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PostPosted: Yesterday 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: captured nut? Reply with quote

biffidum wrote:
Turns out VW spot welded a simple "wrench" over the internal nut in the upper rear shock tower. I guess they didn't have wire or rod welding capability on their assembly line, only spot welding which would explain this poor approach to a captured nut. Once rusted the bolt spins the nut and the "wrench". Another scenario (likely mine) the bolt rusts onto the bush inside the upper shock. When you spin the bolt it can't move outwards, so the internal nut moves inwards forcing itself out from the "wrench"

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For the love of Mike people, please replace your shocks if they look at all rusty. These look to be original and well composted.


Looks like you fixed it. I do agree with you on the shocks needing to replaced every so often thing, especially if you live in the "salt belt" or near the ocean.
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