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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If those are original five lug bolt pattern, they should fit.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dana Champion wrote:
If those are original five lug bolt pattern, they should fit.


Is bolt pattern it, though? Or do we care about offset, weight limits, and size? Confused

If you're pushing the bus around the yard, then they're perfect. If you're taking the bus out on the road with those, please be sure that the weight requirements of the bus are exceeded, for the safety of those around you. If you value your wheel bearings and spindles, you'll also want to make sure the weight offset is 100% correct before putting any serious road time on them.

I do not think VW would have designed a bus-specific rim unless the really thought the bug rim was inadequate. I SERIOUSLY doubt the aftermarket bean counters would encourage a product to be made to exceed safety requirements for both cars…

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it looks like they will work, going to check out local tire place that has Continental Vanco 8s in 195/70r15c.

any other suggestions out there on tires?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCdad wrote:
Help on Engine number.

H 5039066

1500cc ?


That being an "H" case, check it thoroughly, well known for cracks around/behind #3 and pulled studs. Quite a few consider replacing these cases instead of rebuilding them.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So after getting the P&Cs off, just a bit to much endplay... ended up cracking the case open and will be getting it line linebored and add case savers.

moved on and opened up the gas tank area, remove the tank...
It was pretty crusty inside it.

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priced a new empi one and will check with a radiator shop to see what it would cost to refurbish the original.


on another note, a friend gave me a childs cot. so now I have both cots.

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I did get the Continental Vanco 8's for the wheels, hope to have some photos of them up today.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get an empi tank if you're going to buy one, get the Wolfsburg West tank. I like the bus, congrats.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input on the gas tank

Just a quick picture of the wheels on the bus still on jackstands but you get the idea.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: 10-30-15
The rain has slowed me down a bit, being shadetree here.
So far a list of things done:

Brakes
Metal / Rubber lines replaced
Wheel Cylinders
Brake shoes
Drums turned
ran new emergency brake cable down drivers side
Master Cylinder replaced

Tie Rods replaced
Beam Greased
Shift coupling / bushings

Accelerator Cable replaced
Clutch Cable replaced
New fuel tank

Case dropped off for Line boring / decking / case savers
SP heads getting new valve guides and valves

A few pics...

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Will prob work on tranny, changing gear oil, working axles, new boots next.
removing interior and clean up.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gnarly ol' Bus, looks like it's been there and back- I like!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good.
When you are ready to due the cv boot.
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Click on links.
How to Remove Stripped CV Bolt Head
CV Joints: Re-pack or Replace?
CV Joint Service (Lobro)
PSA - Nord-Lock your drive shaft (CV) bolts
1970 VW Type2 CV Joint Play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgwmuZuJ02I
Vanagon CV bolt torque specification 33 ft lbs
CV Joints 101
CV Joint Maintenance

Prt#113 501 229 A and 211 501 229, CV bolt, Socket Head, M8-1.25 x 47, 12.9 hardness, to 70.
Prt# 893 407 237, CV bolt, 12 point polygon head, M8-1.25 x 48, 12.9 hardness, to 71-79. Will work on 68-91 Buses.

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YES!
Manual and auto trans axles are 3 different lengths.
...and are NOT interchangable.

Half shaft lengths
manual 476mm (18 3/4in)
auto left 457mm (18 in)
auto right 505mm (19 7/8 in)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

Update Post: 2-19-2016
Been working slowly on this project...

Removed interior, accessing the rust...

Got motor back together, and back in and I have a running bus now.
1641cc
New Clutch & Pressure Plate

A few more pics...

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Next up: Wiring Demons and Rust
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

Looks good. Here's my 11/69 Westy when I got it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

MonkeySee wrote:
Looks good. Here's my 11/69 Westy when I got it.
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Nice, are you gonna change the front nose back to low light? or roll it as is?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

Man you east coast guys really have a different idea of whats restorable and what is not. I wouldent even attempt to fix that thing up, good luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

khalimadeath wrote:
Man you east coast guys really have a different idea of whats restorable and what is not. I wouldent even attempt to fix that thing up, good luck!



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

Nice work. Nothing better than a Westy IMO. I have a question about your exhaust. I love the tone of that style exhaust and used to run them on my bugs. Now I have a 71 Westy and I am wondering if it will work on my bus with the rear bumper. Seems like everyone I see that has one has no rear bumper. I see them for sale for the types and I don't want to spend the cash if it won't fit with my bumper on.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

FlatfourFrenchy wrote:
Nice work. Nothing better than a Westy IMO. I have a question about your exhaust. I love the tone of that style exhaust and used to run them on my bugs. Now I have a 71 Westy and I am wondering if it will work on my bus with the rear bumper. Seems like everyone I see that has one has no rear bumper. I see them for sale for the types and I don't want to spend the cash if it won't fit with my bumper on.
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I have the bumper, a few other friends run this style and had no issues...
a couple ran the larger pipe mufflers and had to do some fabrication.

Ill see if I can take some pics of theirs
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

Just adding some pics since Im out enjoying it... and yeah, still working on it as I go.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

khalimadeath wrote:
Man you east coast guys really have a different idea of whats restorable and what is not. I wouldent even attempt to fix that thing up, good luck!


I understand where your coming from, but with my budget it's what was available...
another one put back on the road after 20+ years sittin alone.

Thanks for lookin'

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: NCdad's 1970 Bay Bus #2 Reply with quote

Just been rolling along this summer...
working on what I can, thought I'd add a few pics.


put some crusty truck mirrors on that I picked up cheap at this years transporter show.

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Took the top off to clean it up and install the new Canvas Poptop tent.
Its the Amish One that is available on here ... its really a nice canvas...
Only issue I had was that the pattern was not an original canvas... it should be about 1.5" to 2" longer to hide the white strips with the staples. other than that its great and happy with it.


removal of top

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cleaned up ready to spray...

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Rear top before and after

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Had some rot I had to replace... ended up fiberglassing over the replacement pieces...

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All Installed now

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Test fit putting a 5000 BTU AC in drivers window.
seems to work good... going to make a shelf that hooks to rain gutter for support.

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