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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:26 pm Post subject: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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Guys,
I'm at a loss as to which is the correct part number for this part. This is for a 1979 bus transmission. I've looked all over including checking ETKA and can't seem to find the correct number. There seems to be a change after 1972. Your help is appreciated.
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airschooled Air-Schooled
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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I am finding conflicting info about part # 211 301 289A. CIP and WW sell the early rubber bellows under that number.
There appear to be the pleated accordion style, available on the net listed as -72, and a "mushroom" style (shown below) that shares the same part number but is long gone off the shelves. I think SGKent posted a while ago about this, but I could be making that up. Here's a pic of it in front:
EDIT: 211 711 115B is the mushroom part number, courtesy of an old thread by Webwalker.... SGKent then said some of the boots [were] available from VW Classic Parts.
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# 211 711 115A is the later bus (EDIT: rubber boot) that the hockey stick/nosecone gets. Ratwell lists it as NLA... Thanks for the pic Colin! (I previously called this "cheap plastic," but only because I have felt age-hardened boots that felt that way.)
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Tcash Samba Member
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16863 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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gary, I have used the one as posted by T....seems to be ok. lube the shaft some or your boot will drag and get wadded up at the base
(you can take that a few different ways I suppose =) _________________
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Amskeptic Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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asiab3 wrote: |
# 211 711 115A is the later bus (CHEAP!) plastic cover that the hockey stick/nosecone gets. Ratwell lists it as NLA... Thanks for the pic Colin!
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airschooled Air-Schooled
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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Amskeptic wrote: |
asiab3 wrote: |
# 211 711 115A is the later bus (CHEAP!) plastic cover that the hockey stick/nosecone gets. Ratwell lists it as NLA... Thanks for the pic Colin!
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That is rubber . . . treated with gummiflege |
But but but it feels like plastic when every other owner on the planet fails to Gummi-Fledge it and keep the bus stored indoors for its long rests……
(Seriously, I've only felt two, but they've both been rock-hard.)
Brian, we must Gummi-Fledge our shift boots schnell!
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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lube the shaft some or your boot will drag and get wadded up at the base
That works for me sometimes but usually I just get too carried away and just go for it.
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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asiab3 wrote: |
(Seriously, I've only felt two, but they've both been rock-hard.)
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
asiab3 wrote: |
(Seriously, I've only felt two, but they've both been rock-hard.)
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don't worry kid-o. the older they get the softer they are |
Puh-lease. Rubbers don't do well with age. _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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Okay, let's get back on topic. Do I really need to order this part from Europe? There must be one somewhere in the domestic market. Robbie, get your head out of the gutter. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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airschooled Air-Schooled
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Amskeptic Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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asiab3 wrote: |
an early accordion style boot will work, |
As will a couple of loose laps of saran wrap. Now don't go drag this into the gutter.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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used or VWHeritage in the UK. Take your pick. I've looked all over here. NOS ones are too hard from sitting 35 years. Ask me how I know. Grease keeps the used one flexible. Used come up from time to time. If you buy a new repop from the UK let us know and we can maybe put together a group buy and split shipping.
If the trans is out and the nosecpne off be sure to install one of these. It keeps the bearing from eating into the nosecone which eventually causes shifting problems and gear pop outs in 4th:
http://www.weddleindustries.com/products/1000292/1002215
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old DKP driver Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2005 Posts: 4145 Location: Los Gatos,Ca.
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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Gary, I HAVE 3 left and just sent 1 out today.
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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Looks like my current need has been solved thanks to my friend from Los Gatos. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:49 am Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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asiab3 wrote: |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
asiab3 wrote: |
(Seriously, I've only felt two, but they've both been rock-hard.)
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don't worry kid-o. the older they get the softer they are |
Puh-lease. Rubbers don't do well with age. |
this exchange totally flew over your head _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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kguarnotta Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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Can I resurrect this thread?
I am looking for the part too - 211 711 115 A.
Is it really only available from Europe? My '78 just stopped shifting properly, and realize I need to replace the coupler bushing, and while poking around down there, found this part about to fall off. 211 711 115 A
Luckily it was together enough I could read a part number off it, as I couldn't find out what it was called. _________________ -Kevin
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SGKent Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2090932
you can get reproductions from Europe too but the postage is a killer. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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kguarnotta Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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thanks.
that sounds a bit pricey - for that much, I could get one shipped from the UK. I read on this thread that the NOS boots are brittle with age, so I think I want to get a new one anyway. _________________ -Kevin
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SGKent Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: 091 nose cone boot PN |
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kguarnotta wrote: |
thanks.
that sounds a bit pricey - for that much, I could get one shipped from the UK. I read on this thread that the NOS boots are brittle with age, so I think I want to get a new one anyway. |
You probably like to look a gift horse in the mouth too. Although it is not pricey I probably would have sold it to you for $10. Now I shall keep it for myself. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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