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daos Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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they come in both 8mm and 10mm so i should be ok |
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pierrox Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2013 Posts: 258 Location: Paris, London, The Alps, North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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Thanks Heiko for going through the trouble of importing them in the US for the local community!
I'm based in Europe, and was aware of the Stateside Tuning offer. Didn't manage to source the provider - don't want to cut ST's business, but he's just not replying to my mails, I guess his interest if mainly the UK market.
Do you know if the makers would sell directly to customers in Europe?
Second question, is there anybody out there making 10mm rockers? ST sells VW version drilled and tapped to 10mm (up from the stock 8mm), but I was wondering if there is a stronger version out there for a type1 engine. _________________ Our bus is on Instagram
instagram.com/biencuitbus |
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'77 Westy Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2016 Posts: 11 Location: Near Lyon, France
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pierrox Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2013 Posts: 258 Location: Paris, London, The Alps, North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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Nice job! In 8mm or 10mm? Jim said that he wasn't too keen on the 8mm but that the 10mm were bomb-proof. _________________ Our bus is on Instagram
instagram.com/biencuitbus |
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'77 Westy Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2016 Posts: 11 Location: Near Lyon, France
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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pierrox wrote: |
Nice job! In 8mm or 10mm? Jim said that he wasn't too keen on the 8mm but that the 10mm were bomb-proof. |
10mm for a 2316cc Type 4 – work in progress. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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Hoody wrote:
So Colin for 189,000 miles you had zero issues with Genuine Porsche swivel feet. But after only 15,000 miles 2 of the 8 were not up to snuff? That's a 25%
failure rate in my book. There is a sucker born every day.
My Heiko 10mm swivelfoot adjusters are still on the engine. They did not fail, but they did make their defects known to me, and I did have to (and still do have to) massage many new parts to get them to behave.
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I have some 8mm ones gotten thru this thread that I was working on the rocker arms today, cleaning them for the conversion. Haven't started grinding yet. How are these working for everyone who has them? Any updates on wear and performance? I am wondering too if I should have gone 10mm. When I started out down this path only the 8mm ones were available - although it makes more sense to not be grinding up my only good 10mm rocker arms. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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daos Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2017 Posts: 309 Location: Stockholm, SWE
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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running the tp-technologie 8mm in my 1600 type 3. couple of thousand km so far (not a lot, i know) but no problems to date. have had to adjust a few times, they're trickier than standard adjusters due to the movement in the foot but you get used to it. i also boiled mine in oil prior to installation, just to be safe.
as for everyone claiming one is better than the other there are no absolutes. a number of parameters are involved such as who installed them and quality of work, how – and how often – they are adjusted, the state of your engine, how you drive etc. blanket statements only muddy the waters. |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12688 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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I have the genuine Porsche 8mm adjusters, at $29.95 per screw. Almost 100k on them and they are quieter than factory adjuster screws. I once went over 15k without having to adjust the valves, and the heads show absolutely NO sign of oil passing through the guides. I think they paid for themselves.
Robbie _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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thanks. How does the quality of the ones sold in this thread compare to the Porsche ones? _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50261
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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SGKent wrote: |
thanks. How does the quality of the ones sold in this thread compare to the Porsche ones? |
I have about 25K miles on mine so far. No problems to date. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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Wildthings wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
thanks. How does the quality of the ones sold in this thread compare to the Porsche ones? |
I have about 25K miles on mine so far. No problems to date. |
8 mm or 10 mm, and are they the ones sold in this thread? _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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SGKent wrote: |
Wildthings wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
thanks. How does the quality of the ones sold in this thread compare to the Porsche ones? |
I have about 25K miles on mine so far. No problems to date. |
8 mm or 10 mm, and are they the ones sold in this thread? |
The 10mm ones sold here |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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yeah I bought the 8 mm before the 10 mm were available. Maybe I'll sell them and the 8 mm rocker arm/shaft set etc., and replace with 10 mm. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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SGKent wrote: |
yeah I bought the 8 mm before the 10 mm were available. Maybe I'll sell them and the 8 mm rocker arm/shaft set etc., and replace with 10 mm. |
If I had had all the stuff for the 8mm setup, I wouldn't have gone to the 10mm. Even the core engines I have around that were supposed to by 1700 have 10mm rocker setups. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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Wildthings wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
yeah I bought the 8 mm before the 10 mm were available. Maybe I'll sell them and the 8 mm rocker arm/shaft set etc., and replace with 10 mm. |
If I had had all the stuff for the 8mm setup, I wouldn't have gone to the 10mm. Even the core engines I have around that were supposed to by 1700 have 10mm rocker setups. |
I have 10 mm with screws on the bus and a very clean set of 8 mm rocker shafts complete with both the old set of screws and the new swivel feet. I am getting ready to put on Len's heads and am trying to decide which direction to go. I thought I had 10 mm swivels but they are 8 mm. I am leaning towards selling the whole set and finding some 10 mm swivels but I also don't want to destroy the only good 10 mm set of rocker arms I have. The 8 mm are lighter so technically they would perform better but I don't know. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12688 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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I think between tommu's ticky tacky 10mm swivel foot, and the grit that Colin reported, you'd want to keep the Porsche 8mm adjusters for their quality.
Are you really going to rev it high enough where rocker weight matters? What RPM would that be at?
Robbie _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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tommu Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2011 Posts: 616 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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I think one of mine got sticky due to lack of lubrication. I pulled the pushrods, blew some air through them and assembly lube oozed out. I cleaned the sticky one, lubricated it till it felt smooth again and reinstalled. Everything sounds ok right now. Having said that - I would rather have Porsche adjusters. _________________ |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:26 am Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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these came from Heiko. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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tommu Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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I understood Heiko was importing them from Thorsten Pieper. _________________ |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: Solution!!! found 10mm swivel foot adjusters for type 4 rock |
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and how do those compare to the Porsche ones? Thorsten Pieper is the company he named in the thread earlier. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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