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BulletBus Samba Member

Joined: August 17, 2005 Posts: 1270 Location: Panama City Beach
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:32 am Post subject: Can this be a barndoor apron? |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2100024
What would be the application for a non crank start and an exhaust cut out? _________________ 53 Hatch Barndoor
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djfordmanjack Samba Member

Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 1602 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? |
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No way. This guy is probably mixing up his cargo doors with our barndoor. no muffler tip cutout on og BD aprons! also missing the crank hole. has one zero too much in the price...
looks like a '65ish one to me. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins ! ______Barndoor + Kohlruss Coachbuilt DLX afficionado
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3386 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? |
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It doesnt appear to be quite so cut & dry.
Roughly:
Part no. 211 813 175 > 50-55 Barndoors
Part no. 211 813 175a > 55-59 Bus (30hp)
Part no. 211 813 175b > 60-65 Bus
So this^ (Replacement Barndoor?) apron style seems to share exactly the same part number as the original Barndoor item.
Original Barndoor apron: Crankstart hole, flush catch area, no exhaust cutout.
'Replacement Barndoor' apron: No crankstart hole, flush catch area, exhaust cutout.
55-59 Bus apron: Crankstart hole, recessed catch area, no exhaust cutout.
60-65 Bus apron: No crankstart hole, recessed catch area, exhaust cutout.
^This 'Replacement Barndoor' apron seems to be a fusion of the Barndoor apron, and the 60-65 apron.
But it carries the Barndoor part number (I have a picture of one with the original VW sticker on).
Maybe it was a replacement apron to fit to a Barndoor with a later engine installed?
No need for the crankstart hole. Exhaust cutout needed. Barndoor catch, so flush catch area needed.
For those that are interested, there is a much better thread on split bus apron variation here:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128764 _________________ -StockRocks-
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3386 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? |
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Part no. 211 813 175 > 50-55 Barndoors
Part no. 211 813 175a > 55-59 Bus
Part no. 211 813 175b > 60-65 Bus
Part no. 211 813 175 > 'Replacement Barndoor' apron?
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Who.Me? Samba Member

Joined: July 14, 2014 Posts: 1446 Location: UK (South)
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:27 am Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? |
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RockStock wrote: |
It doesnt appear to be quite so cut & dry.
^This 'Replacement Barndoor' apron seems to be a fusion on the Barndoor apron, and the 60-65 apron.
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Followed the link from the split bus whines thread here. In the above, do you mean that the replacement would fit an engine with later styles of rear tin, that have a different profile to the 25/36hp tin?
To my eye, the one in the classifieds looks like it has the earlier 25/36hp profile?
Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick...
Easye posted a good comparison of the differences in the apron profiles for 25/36hp tin v later tin in this thread https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
And is from the classified ad...
This is a similar angle of the 60-65 tin that I'm using on my '56 single cab with a later engine it looks like the cut out comes closer to the latch position than the one in the classifieds?
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djfordmanjack Samba Member

Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 1602 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? |
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a 66/67 (model year) also doesn't have a recess, and has the muffler tip cutout.
it has appendix 'C' 211-813-175C.
Maybe VW built a later replacement for 'BD' era apron from what they had in, say 1967. who'd care for the cutout on their pre55 bus in 67 ? _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins ! ______Barndoor + Kohlruss Coachbuilt DLX afficionado
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'52 BD Coachbuild project
'54 Oval Sunroof project with my son, L275 Lichtbeige
'55 Wolfsburg panel project, Taubenblau L31 all original paint
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