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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:32 am    Post subject: Can this be a barndoor apron? Reply with quote

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2100024

What would be the application for a non crank start and an exhaust cut out?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? Reply with quote

No way. This guy is probably mixing up his cargo doors with our barndoor. no muffler tip cutout on og BD aprons! also missing the crank hole. has one zero too much in the price... Laughing
looks like a '65ish one to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? Reply with quote

It doesnt appear to be quite so cut & dry.

Roughly:
Part no. 211 813 175 > 50-55 Barndoors
Part no. 211 813 175a > 55-59 Bus (30hp)
Part no. 211 813 175b > 60-65 Bus

So this^ (Replacement Barndoor?) apron style seems to share exactly the same part number as the original Barndoor item.

Original Barndoor apron: Crankstart hole, flush catch area, no exhaust cutout.
'Replacement Barndoor' apron: No crankstart hole, flush catch area, exhaust cutout.
55-59 Bus apron: Crankstart hole, recessed catch area, no exhaust cutout.
60-65 Bus apron: No crankstart hole, recessed catch area, exhaust cutout.

^This 'Replacement Barndoor' apron seems to be a fusion of the Barndoor apron, and the 60-65 apron.
But it carries the Barndoor part number (I have a picture of one with the original VW sticker on).

Maybe it was a replacement apron to fit to a Barndoor with a later engine installed?
No need for the crankstart hole. Exhaust cutout needed. Barndoor catch, so flush catch area needed.

For those that are interested, there is a much better thread on split bus apron variation here:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128764
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? Reply with quote

Part no. 211 813 175 > 50-55 Barndoors
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Part no. 211 813 175a > 55-59 Bus
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Part no. 211 813 175b > 60-65 Bus
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Part no. 211 813 175 > 'Replacement Barndoor' apron?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:27 am    Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? Reply with quote

RockStock wrote:
It doesnt appear to be quite so cut & dry.

^This 'Replacement Barndoor' apron seems to be a fusion on the Barndoor apron, and the 60-65 apron.


Followed the link from the split bus whines thread here. In the above, do you mean that the replacement would fit an engine with later styles of rear tin, that have a different profile to the 25/36hp tin?

To my eye, the one in the classifieds looks like it has the earlier 25/36hp profile?

Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick...

Easye posted a good comparison of the differences in the apron profiles for 25/36hp tin v later tin in this thread https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

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And is from the classified ad...

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This is a similar angle of the 60-65 tin that I'm using on my '56 single cab with a later engine it looks like the cut out comes closer to the latch position than the one in the classifieds?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Can this be a barndoor apron? Reply with quote

a 66/67 (model year) also doesn't have a recess, and has the muffler tip cutout.
it has appendix 'C' 211-813-175C.

Maybe VW built a later replacement for 'BD' era apron from what they had in, say 1967. who'd care for the cutout on their pre55 bus in 67 ?
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