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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

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Clutch slave line for a reversed pinion Subaru transmission.


I went to hydraulic hose shop and had one made for like $40 or $50. Are you using the luk 1" bore slave (Subie slave is too small, you don't get a good feel).

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32" hydraulic hose with brakequip fittings~m12x1 female bubble flare; 7/16 24 sae inverted flare steel 90į on slave side. About 34" over all.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

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Gotta knurl that pin or put a roll pin in, or glue it with press fit Loctite....


Drill a hole in the center, from below, thread it and use a setscrew or M6 bolt.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

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I wish I had read this before I ordered a clutch hose for $70. A month ago. Doesn't answer e-mails or the phone, and the voice mailbox is full.


Which clutch hose?


Clutch slave line for a reversed pinion Subaru transmission.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

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I wish I had read this before I ordered a clutch hose for $70. A month ago. Doesn't answer e-mails or the phone, and the voice mailbox is full.


Which clutch hose?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

I wish I had read this before I ordered a clutch hose for $70. A month ago. Doesn't answer e-mails or the phone, and the voice mailbox is full.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

Gotta knurl that pin or put a roll pin in, or glue it with press fit Loctite....
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

My BS shifter for the subarugears transmission came apart while driving TWICE, each time a different component failed, both times it was a pin (a different pin per occasion) falling out of it's hole. This resulted in me not being able to shift at all as I was driving down the road. Both times I tried to contact RS Fab for advice, some kind of resolution, etc and never received a response. I repaired it myself each time and it is still working but I doubt I'll buy anything from them again. I made a long photo documented post about it on the Facebook Vanagon Owners Group. I have since disabled my Facebook account so I'm not sure if it is still visible or not.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

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Absolutely no noise from my Big Shot shifter


It seems like no noise from RS Fab is the real problem...
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

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Well another crappy complaint...syncro linkage ordered a few weeks before the covid shutdown so I guess that will add to the poor guys bad reputation for timely shipping...Iím sad Sad


I've been waiting almost one year for my order; I'd cancel and get your money refunded.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

Well another crappy complaint...syncro linkage ordered a few weeks before the covid shutdown so I guess that will add to the poor guys bad reputation for timely shipping...Iím sad Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

Absolutely no noise from my Big Shot shifter--much quieter than the stock linkage in my experience.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

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Question on the product... does anyone notice more noise transmitted through the solid joints vs the O.E. setup? Last thing I would want is amplified vibration noises.



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If you're getting vibration noise through your shifter, remove the knob. If it goes away, it's the knob acting as a passive amplifier, not the shifter per se. I found the top of the factory knob is very thin plastic and, at least on mine, was acting basically like a drum skin and really amplifying rattles. Put on the GoWesty machined knob and the shifter vibration noise I'd been fighting for years vanished, and hasn't returned. I think any aftermarket solid knob would work the same.


This is really interesting. I may have to try this out and see if the shift knob is magnifying the issue. Iíve been toying around with the idea if attaching some long lead weights to the long sections of the linkage under the cam to see if it would soak up some of the vibes before they make their way to the shifter.


The 'solid looking' knob I've seen on most/all of the RS shifters would likely not suffer from the same issues. The stock knob, on mine, seems *ideal*, if not intentionally designed, to magnify noise. But if the RS knob isn't solid, or if the original knob is used, then I would expect the solid mounting to create/radiate more vibrational noise.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

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Question on the product... does anyone notice more noise transmitted through the solid joints vs the O.E. setup? Last thing I would want is amplified vibration noises.


I have the shifter and feel that it does add some noise to the cockpit area. The tone changes noticeably and gets quieter when I rest my hand on the shifter and the ďreverbĒ or acoustics are quieter in the rear of the van in either scenario. HOWEVER, I feel this is only the case because of my straight cut 4th gear. It is very quiet in third and that is a reduced helix gear. It is especially loud at low rpms in 4th, but is a good reminder to not lug the engine Wink

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If you're getting vibration noise through your shifter, remove the knob. If it goes away, it's the knob acting as a passive amplifier, not the shifter per se. I found the top of the factory knob is very thin plastic and, at least on mine, was acting basically like a drum skin and really amplifying rattles. Put on the GoWesty machined knob and the shifter vibration noise I'd been fighting for years vanished, and hasn't returned. I think any aftermarket solid knob would work the same.


This is really interesting. I may have to try this out and see if the shift knob is magnifying the issue. Iíve been toying around with the idea if attaching some long lead weights to the long sections of the linkage under the cam to see if it would soak up some of the vibes before they make their way to the shifter.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

Wellington wrote:
Do you want a shifter or the right to complain?

I get the distinct impression if it was you, you'd be "complaining."

In fact, it sounds like you're the only one who is.

Sub-standard business practices deserve to be called out online. In fact, it's one of the only financial recourses people have on lower-ticket items that actually gets results.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

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I couldíve cast up a few hundred no problem but he insisted that cnc was cheaper. I like well made not cheap.


RS Fab Shifters are anything but cheaply made. They are simply incredible, functional and beautiful works of art in aluminum. The best mod I have in any of my vans.

sad about his communication, not sure what is going on to not reply to a customer who paid.


Laughing of course...only on the samba do they think that the word 'cheap' has only one definition...'poorly made' . sad because spo many things these days are poorly made, but thats not the issue here.

i wasnt saying that the produt itself is cheap, i was saying that it woudl cost less to cast them than to spend hours milling material. you could cast these and then fabricate the rest of the assembly,and machine the bottom surface and do the passthrough holes. it would be CHEAPER to manufacture them, for instance a casting like the base part for the shifter could be made for around $40 each however in one day i could make 100, so its also faster than the machine time for the cnc method they are currently using. this in turn speeds up the lead times and people get stuff faster...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

I have no vibration coming from my Big Shot Shifter. Work of art. Would gladly buy again if they were actually still for sale.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

khughes wrote:
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Question on the product... does anyone notice more noise transmitted through the solid joints vs the O.E. setup? Last thing I would want is amplified vibration noises.

J


If you're getting vibration noise through your shifter, remove the knob. If it goes away, it's the knob acting as a passive amplifier, not the shifter per se. I found the top of the factory knob is very thin plastic and, at least on mine, was acting basically like a drum skin and really amplifying rattles. Put on the GoWesty machined knob and the shifter vibration noise I'd been fighting for years vanished, and hasn't returned. I think any aftermarket solid knob would work the same.


Thanks, I understand that.. I'd like to hear from volks that have the BSS. I'm thinking it's kind of akin to putting rigid suspension bushings in vs softer rubber.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

jberger wrote:
Question on the product... does anyone notice more noise transmitted through the solid joints vs the O.E. setup? Last thing I would want is amplified vibration noises.

J


If you're getting vibration noise through your shifter, remove the knob. If it goes away, it's the knob acting as a passive amplifier, not the shifter per se. I found the top of the factory knob is very thin plastic and, at least on mine, was acting basically like a drum skin and really amplifying rattles. Put on the GoWesty machined knob and the shifter vibration noise I'd been fighting for years vanished, and hasn't returned. I think any aftermarket solid knob would work the same.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

outcaststudios wrote:
I couldíve cast up a few hundred no problem but he insisted that cnc was cheaper. I like well made not cheap.


RS Fab Shifters are anything but cheaply made. They are simply incredible, functional and beautiful works of art in aluminum. The best mod I have in any of my vans.

sad about his communication, not sure what is going on to not reply to a customer who paid.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: What's up with RS FAB? Reply with quote

Question on the product... does anyone notice more noise transmitted through the solid joints vs the O.E. setup? Last thing I would want is amplified vibration noises.

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