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mpl Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:22 pm Post subject: My Bostig RG6 build |
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I’m starting this thread to document my work on converting my Westy from its stock waterboxer (WBX) engine to a Zetec engine using Bostig’s conversion kit (RG6 release). While this is primarily for my future reference, I hope it helps others as well!
My Westy is a 1984 2WD Vanagon with a 4-speed manual transmission. It started with a 1.9l WBX engine. It does not have power steering or air conditioning.
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mpl Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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Baseline and Background [October 2015]
Here’s my Westy, right when I purchased it, and before the Bostig conversion.
He’s named “Fred,” after my friend who died of cancer very unexpectedly and very young (in his early 30’s). My friend Fred worked very hard in Wall Street jobs, but also always interspersed this work with long travel breaks. Fred would take six months to a year at a time away from work, taking trips like cycling across the United States or traveling around the world. It was during one of these trips – while he was in northern Africa – that Fred was not feeling well and came home for medical attention. It was only then that he first learned that he had very advanced cancer, with not much longer to live. Fred passed away soon thereafter. Fred always taught me – both during and after his life – that while work is necessary and can be meaningful, we also shouldn’t postpone life enjoyment for too long, because we never know how long we’ll have on this Earth. It seemed only fitting to name the Westy after Fred.
Fred the Westy, upon purchase, was pretty much a stock 1984 2WD manual Westy. While the two prior owners had taken good care of him – even though Fred was in the Northeast his whole life, the body was in great shape overall with only some minor seam rust in a few spots – his engine was anemic. Not only did the engine sound like it was on the verge of dying, but it also ran very gassy, with the exhaust rich with fuel. The transmission also needed attention, as everything was original over 170K miles (even the clutch).
I chose the Bostig kit for two reasons: reliability, and walk-through instructions/videos. I appreciated Bostig’s philosophy that most Vanagon owners just want to enjoy trips, and as a result whatever offered stronger reliability appealed to me. While I am a seasoned bicycle mechanic, I have no prior auto wrenching experience pre-Westy. So, I needed to ride the coattails of someone else’s learning to do the conversion, and simultaneously using the conversion as an opportunity to better learn the van appealed to me.
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4087 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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Nice van! You're gonna love the Zetec.
Doing the conversion yourself will give you an in-depth tutorial into your van. Take your time, clean up the engine bay as you go, and have fun!
Long live Fred the van, nice tribute to your friend. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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mpl Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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Buying a Zetec Engine [December 2015]
I started by sourcing a Zetec engine using the instructions in the Bostig factory manual (“Engine Call Sheet”, pages 115-117). A key detail not mentioned in the manual is that engines can be purchased either from manual transmission or automatic transmission Focus donors.
I searched car-part.com using Bostig’s instructions and found more than 20 Zetecs with less than 50,000 miles on them within driving distance of my house, all priced between $350 and $500.
The first candidate I considered was from a 2001 Focus (photo below). Though it only had 29,000 miles on it, it had the wrong kind of injector harness (black plug instead of purple plug), and the selling yard seemed a bit dicey. So, I passed on it.
My second candidate – which I ended up purchasing – was from a 2004 Focus ZX3. I liked that it came from a newer car and the mileage was still low (45,000 miles). Price was $425 including tax. The selling yard was very helpful, honest, and responsive - I purchased from J.C. Recycling in Meriden, CT, and would recommend them to others.
I picked up the engine rather than paying to have it shipped. Here are photos of the engine at the time of purchase. I inspected it using the “Engine Inspection and Preparation” checklist in Bostig’s factory manual (pages 8-10) and their engine prep video.
The galleys looked pretty good...
No cracks or breaks on the intake manifold. The coveted purple plug is also there. At the time, I didn’t notice that the throttle body is cracked; I kicked myself later when I realized I’d need to buy a replacement throttle body.
Here’s the exhaust side of the engine...
On the front of the engine, the EGR was bashed in, but that won’t be reused, so that’s okay. The power steering pump line was also bashed, but Fred doesn’t have power steering, so this is fine for my purposes. This engine is also missing an A/C bracket, but Fred doesn’t have air conditioning, so this is fine.
I’ll post follow-up photos once I’ve cleaned up and prepped the engine. |
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mpl Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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Removing the Waterboxer [December 22-27, 2015]
Jim at Bostig set a target delivery date for RG6 for sometime in January 2016. I had some vacation time around the holidays, so figured I’d make some advance headway on the conversion by removing the old WBX.
Here’s a “before” photo of my engine bay with the stock 1.9l WBX.
I started by buying a used engine hoist from Craigslist. It turned out to be a huge help, but is very heavy; if you decide to purchase one, be sure to have two or three strong friends to help you move it!
I then made sure that I had all of the tools that are itemized in the “Tool and Workspace Preparation” part of the Bostig factory manual (page 7). I had to pick up a few missing tools at Sears and some additional supplies at the FLAPS.
I then set to work disassembling the WBX, following Bostig’s disassembly video instructions and JudoJeff’s WBX removal notes.
I kept a detailed log of my WBX disassembly, which builds on JudoJeff’s WBX removal notes. Here’s my commented version of the WBX disassembly instructions, in case it’s helpful to others:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XenQhjxh7ZkaUJ9uzc8EMpH9N68HZ-EYrajZIANdai0
Most of the WBX disassembly was pretty straightforward using the above resources. I ran into two major challenges:- Removing the inner CV bolts. My CV bolts were rusted tight, and were 6mm Allen, so offered less grip than the M8 triple square bolts on later Vanagons. It took me two days of persistent soaking with PB Blaster and working on the bolts to free them.
- Disconnecting the clutch slave cylinder. I found it very difficult to free the clutch slave cylinder from the transaxle. First, the 13mm bolts connecting the clutch slave cylinder to the mounting bracket are very difficult to access. I accomplished this by sliding a thin 13mm box wrench through the bracket to hold one side of the nut/bolt combo, then using a 13mm ratchet with a long extension lying underneath the van to free the nut/bolt. (See photo below: red circle shows the area where these 13mm bolts are removed.)
Once those bolts are removed, my clutch slave cylinder still would not free from the mounting bracket. In the photo below, you can see a hard line in the green circle that kept the clutch slave cylinder fixed in the red circle.
I had to remove one more bolt connecting the mounting bracket to the transaxle in order to free the hydraulic line (see red arrow in photo below); this then allowed me to pull the clutch slave cylinder up and away from the transaxle.
Once I sorted out those issues, the rest of the WBX disassembly was pretty straightforward. Here are the engine and transaxle, disconnected from the van, held from above by an engine hoist and from below by a floor jack.
After slowly and carefully lowering the WBX and transaxle, ensuring that all wiring and hoses were disconnected, I was able to pull the assembly out from under the van.
Here’s the “after” photo of my engine bay without the WBX. You can see the CVs below, wrapped up in plastic bags to keep them clean for now.
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JudoJeff Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2013 Posts: 1179 Location: Near Springfield, MA
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:03 am Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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Mike,
Great job!
Did you ship the transmission out for rebuild?
Jeff _________________ ________________________________________
1989 Vanagon GL Westfalia Camper, Burned up on 7/31/16.
1987 Vanagon GL Westfalia Camper, Bostig & Rebuilt, sold
1986 Vanagon GL Westfalia Camper, Bostig Sold May 10, 2021
1999 Ford GTRV Westfalia camper (30% bigger Westy layout) |
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Wasted youth Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 5134 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:55 am Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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I will be following this thread. Looks like your project and this thread are off to a great start! Keep it rolling! |
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Atadloco Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2012 Posts: 254 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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Great job! Another resource I can use when I do mine, RG7 group. |
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mpl Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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JudoJeff wrote: |
Mike,
Great job!
Did you ship the transmission out for rebuild?
Jeff |
Yep! I did, indeed. The rebuilt transaxle just arrived this week. Can’t wait for the SK-A kit to arrive so that I can put it together with the Zetec! |
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mpl Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:06 am Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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Buying Required Parts [December 2015]
Before proceeding with the conversion, I hoped to source all of the items that I’d need in one fell swoop. I hope to avoid a scenario where my conversion work will be delayed for hours or days at a time because I’m waiting for a part that I need at that particular point.
I found that I needed to work through four categories of items: (1) Bostig’s “Required Parts” from their factory manual; (2) items to repair my Zetec; (3) my transaxle; and (4) a few small upgrades.- Bostig’s “Required Parts.” Armed with the Bostig factory manual, I set out to source all of the items that they list in their “Required Parts” (page 6). It took several reads through the manual and some internet research for a newbie like me to decipher some of the necessary parts, but with time, reading, and some questions to Jim at Bostig, I was able to figure it out.
I’ve read Jim’s previous comments that while one should be able to source many of the parts for the Bostig conversion from salvage yards, one shouldn’t need to set foot on a salvage yard to get them – instead, one can use car-part.com to find parts and order by phone. For my experience, I only used car-part.com to buy my Zetec engine and alternator; I did this for the engine to get an actual look at the engine and avoid paying shipping costs, and for the alternator because there’s a salvage yard 10 minutes away from my house that had one. For some of the other key parts, I found eBay to be just a little more expensive than car-part.com, but a whole lot more convenient – I could click and order online rather than calling around to different salvage yards.
Here’s a summary of where I sourced the materials on Bostig’s “Required Parts” list, in the order that they appear on page 6 of the Bostig manual:- car-part.com
- Zetec engine (see “Engine Call Sheet” on pages 115-117 of Bostig manual)
- If my van had power steering, I would have sourced the power steering pump from here (see “Power Steering Pump Call Sheet” on pages 118-119 of Bostig manual)
- Alternator
- eBay
- Electronic control unit (ECU) (see “ECU Call Sheet” on 120-123 of Bostig manual)
- Mass air flow (MAF) meter
- Air box
- A Ford dealership with online sales (I purchased from AutoNation Ford White Bear Lake)
- RockAuto
- Cooling system gaskets
- All of the items in Bostig’s “RockAuto Order list” on pages 112-114 of their manual
- Bus Depot
- Clutch replacement kit (OE Sachs kit, not LuK kit, as recommended by Bostig and others on TheSamba)
- FLAPS
- Serpentine belt
- High pressure fuel line
- Items to repair my Zetec. After walking through Bostig’s Zetec engine prep video, I needed to pick up a few parts that were either missing or damaged on my salvage engine. Your situation may differ depending on the condition of the Zetec that you purchase. I purchased all of these parts from eBay:
- Heat shield (I got the stock one that comes with the Zetec, not Bostig’s upgraded heat shield.)
- Ignition coil (Searching for the Motorcraft part number printed on the top of the ignition coil (e.g., “988F-12029-AC”) will help find the right one quickly.)
- Tensioner pulley
- Throttle body (Be careful that this matches the particular style on your Zetec engine. Jim advised that if you’re searching for these on car-part.com, then search for an automatic transmission Focus, even if your Zetec engine was from a manual transmission Focus.) [Edited 01/26/2016 to correct myself…]
- My transaxle. Unrelated to Bostig’s “Required Parts” list and completely specific to my situation, I knew that I’d need my 4-speed manual transaxle to be rebuilt, as shifting felt very fragile on my stock transaxle with 170K+ miles, with first gear being particularly difficult to access. Given rave reviews from TheSamba and Bostig, I’d hoped to work with AA Transaxle, but AA’s stellar reputation meant that their work calendar was booked out for months. After calling around a bit more, I went with German Transaxle given their strong reputation and availability on their work calendar.
- A few small upgrades.
- Bostig’s billet thermostat housing
- Hose drains. I found it time-consuming and annoying to drain my cooling system, and didn’t want to rely in the future on having a Shop Vac to simplify draining. I picked up two billet aluminum hose drains that I’ll install at the lowest point of my coolant lines (one on the send line, one on the return line) to simplify future coolant draining.
- Metal tees for coolant system. Signalocity and insyncro recommend upgrading the plastic tees in the coolant system to metal tees (see this thread). I followed their advice, ordering aluminum tees from Jaguars That Run.
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CampWesty Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:33 am Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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One thing that's not listed in the parts list that you'll need for your 84 is a 2-inch hole saw for the wiring harness. Check out SK-W and you'll see what I mean. Also, drilling in metal really does require a metal punch. A "step" bit is money well spent too. I first tried without either of these and it was near disaster; I couldn't get an accurate hole started due to the bit wandering.
I used this step bit and punch/awl from Lowe's for all of the sheet metal holes, except for the 2-incher mentioned above. Looks like I could have saved a couple of dollars ordering it ahead of time from Amazon:
Irwin Tools Unibit #1 1/8-Inch to 1/2-Inch Step-Drill Bit
Bostitch 2-5/8-in Awl
I was in a similar boat as you being totally new to DIY car repair. I found it a little overwhelming at times wading through the parts list, tool list, call sheets, and doc updates on Bostig's website. You will have invariably forgot or overlooked something. It will be frustrating for sure when you realize your "mistake", but there is always something else you can work on while you wait for parts/tools to show up. I made numerous trips to the store, mostly for tools. If you have a full set of tools already you'll be one step ahead of me.
If you're looking for something to do until Bostig's kit starts showing up you could:
1. Cut the hole for the wiring harness. 2. Swap the cooling hoses up front by the radiator. 3. Replace the rear heater core, valve, and hoses. - Not part of the conversion, but no better time to do it. If your's isn't leaking yet it probably will be soon. (Assuming it's original.) _________________ Eric
1985 Wolfsburg Westy Weekender, Bostig RG5
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insyncro Banned
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:14 am Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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mpl,
Beautifully done thus far.
Keep it up.
You will have a fantastic van once completed. |
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mpl Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:25 am Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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insyncro, thanks for your positive feedback! Given your deep experience with Vanagons generally and the Bostig conversion specifically, your thumbs-up is really encouraging for me to know that I’m on the right track.
Wasted youth and atadloco, welcome!
CampWesty, thanks for your tip. I’ve got the bits and punch/awl that you suggested, so that’s good, but I appreciate you warning me of this! Good suggestion as well regarding the rear heater core. I’m currently thinking of just stripping out my rear heater while I do the Bostig conversion, as I never use it and this can remove a leaky point of failure. Assuming I do strip out my rear heater, then I’d hope to reuse/widen one of the existing heater hose holes to accommodate the new wiring run (rather than drilling an entirely new hole in the sheet metal). Haven’t decided yet one way or another; we’ll see how it goes! |
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buildyourown Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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I have a use throttle body from an '02 Ill give you.
I bought it and it doesn't fit my '01. Different TPS switch mount.
Pay the shipping and its yours. Pretty sure it fits |
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Bassyaks Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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◦Throttle body (Be careful that this matches the model on the particular year of your Zetec engine. Jim advised that if you’re searching for these on car-part.com, then search for an automatic transmission Focus, even if your Zetec engine was from a manual transmission Focus.) |
this is a very old statement (I believe)
Be Careful the throttle bodies are NOT the same, because of the TPS and will cause drivability problems.
Down the road if you need a TPS
The automatic TPS are almost impossible to find and if you do you may have to purchase the complete throttle body for $300
15 years ago they were easy to find, Only the first few years are interchangeable.
There's more info on it here: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/zetec-performan...works.html
Maybe ask Jim before you start looking for the throttle body.
Great write up |
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mpl Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:54 am Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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Thanks, buildyourown, dobryan, and Bassyaks for weighing in.
buildyourown, thanks for offering your extra throttle body! I picked one up from eBay, so I will check to see if that one fits correctly and does the trick. If it doesn’t work, then I may come ask for yours. Thanks for offering!
dobryan, that’s the exact debate that I’m running through in my head. We’ll see where I land…
Bassyaks, thanks for the tip. To clarify, I didn’t purchase a new replacement throttle body; I found a salvage/used one on eBay for $60, luckily from an automatic transmission. I think that both of us may have some of the fit details correct and some of the fit details incorrect. I’ll check fit once my replacement part comes in and will report back. If I ordered wrong, then I’ll check with Jim and report back on this thread. |
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Bassyaks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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The problem will be in replacing the TPS if needed down the road.
The Throttle Position Sensor for the Automatic throttle body is extinct
For others :
The Automatic throttle body is different and has different TPS connectors
If your motor came without a throttle body , look to purchase one for a early 2000-2003 manual tranny car.
Jim does NOT suggest to run the automatic throttle body if you don't have to .
By all means try to get the Manuel transmission throttle body
Continue On---- great job |
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bostig Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:42 am Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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The TPS styles are different between auto and manual yes, they are not extinct, they are just not listed in some of the most common places for some odd reason... perhaps fighting between mfg reps or other distro nonsense.
Delphi still makes them, walker buys/sell them as well as Standard motor products.
they are under $30.
Here is the link to a standard motor products TH185 closeout at rockauto for $13, regular price $22. This is for the AUTO... the manuals are also readily available.
https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.ph...plate=true
Very few people on the samba post correct information most of the time, nobody in the world does all the time. |
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bostig Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:47 am Post subject: Re: My Bostig RG6 build |
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Also it should be noted, I don't recommend salvage alternators. Seen bad ones almost every time someone went that route. Alternators should come from local branches of national chains, bad rebuilds off the shelf are more and more common from every rebuilder, so being able to swap initially... and then having a warranty around the country is a good thing. |
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