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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

Tcash wrote:
I would. Run the M-Plate serial number and make sure the nose was not off a stolen bus.


Well the good news is that I ran both VINs - from the dash and from the M-Plate and both the US and Canada show them as not in the stolen database.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

That is great news. There have been reports of people loosing there vehicle for one stolen component.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

The PO had made some modifications to the Westy to get more storage room.

The fresh water tank had been removed as well as the fridge components - ie: fridge turned into an icebox.

All the parts were kept however and I got them with the bus. I debated putting the fridge back together to make it operational, but after a lot of thought and research, decided not to. I did put back the fresh water tank and will be hooking it back up. I like the convenience of having it.

For a fridge, I have a portable cooler that works on 12VDC and 120V AC on an adapter so will use that along with the icebox.

Because it is a deluxe Westy it had the wiring for a camper battery, although that too had been removed.

It is a Canadian Deluxe though, so no control panel or charger.

I bought an Optima Blue Top and installed it as the new camper battery:

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I hooked up a plug so that I can plug in either my portable solar panel to charge it, or a Battery Tender when in storage.

The existing camper battery wiring should charge it via the relay when driving.

I am running a few things off the camper battery:

1. A 12VDC RV light newly installed above the rear seat:

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2. A 1000 watt inverter underneath the rear seat:

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Note that I also installed a second 120V AC receptacle which is connected to the shore power - piggy-backed off the 120V receptacle which faces out. That allows me to take the yellow plug from the inverter and move it to the shore power - allowing me to run 120V accessories from either the inverter when dry camping (runs off camper battery) or the shore power when plugged in.

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3. On the outside of the rear seat compartment, I installed a volt meter with a momentary push button, so I can monitor the Camper Battery voltage easily but not drain it by displaying voltage all the time:

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4. I ran electric wiring (using an extension cord in conduit) from the yellow plug shown above, out through the rear seat compartment, along the floor and up by the icebox to the rear of the sink:

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From there, I can plug in any 120V AC accessories to run off either the inverter or shore power depending on where the yellow plug is plugged in.

I currently have a small vintage light and vintage fan:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

Just wondered if your Westy has the heat dump pipes?

http://www.greenwesty.com/2009/05/heat-control-box-dump-pipe-replaced_6161.html
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

rottenkid wrote:
Just wondered if your Westy has the heat dump pipes?

http://www.greenwesty.com/2009/05/heat-control-box-dump-pipe-replaced_6161.html


To be honest, I have never heard of this. You are not confusing it with the Gas Heater exhaust are you?

I still have to look at the heating system. None of the heat works at all - I think the pipes may be disconnected or missing.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

I had a hard time finding out what heat dump pipes were. My 78 bus has them. The idea is that there is air going into the heat exchangers all the time in order to keep moisture out. So the heat is then allowed to be dumped because your not using heat in the vehicle. The pipes are used to get the heat to the back of the bus. I think they only used them in 78.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

Here is another posting of the pipes

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=470950&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

rottenkid wrote:
Here is another posting of the pipes

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=470950&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


Wow, you learn something everyday. I will need to check and see if mine has any.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

Congrats on the bus, and nice progress!

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When I was a kid we had a fan very similar to this. We called it "the lopper"! Shocked Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

Bala wrote:
Congrats on the bus, and nice progress!

When I was a kid we had a fan very similar to this. We called it "the lopper"! Shocked Razz


Yeah, the guard is not really effective - it sure would not pass today's safety standards - but it's cool - both looking and functionality wise!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

Now I am second guessing my decision to put back the fresh water tank.

I am going to replace the tap on the sink with a new one for the city water - something like this:

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I could really use the storage space in the cupboard where the fresh water tank is, and can easily bring a fresh water tank, which I already have like this:

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The other benefit to removing the fresh water tank is that I can securely mount my vintage table lamp using the hole in the counter where the fresh water fill was so it can stay there while driving without drilling another hole.

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

rottenkid wrote:
Just wondered if your Westy has the heat dump pipes?

http://www.greenwesty.com/2009/05/heat-control-box-dump-pipe-replaced_6161.html


Nope - mine has the regular heater boxes with the circle thingies. No heat dump pipes. I don't ever remember my 79 having them either. Both of them were Canadian though - maybe the heat dump pipes were only on US models?

ETA: So apparently the heat dump pipes were only used for the last two years of the US spec Bay - so 78 & 79 US Spec Bays.

Since both of mine - my current 78 and my old 79 were Canadian Spec, they never had them - they just have the regular mushroom caps.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

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Should also be in your engine compartment right around here:

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No VIN there. As per my owners manual - it looks like the only VIN is the dash plate.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

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No VIN there.




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Did anyone do a pre purchase inspection on that before you pulled the trigger?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

I love my sink and water tank. Personally I would recommend it. It doesn't take much space. Also look into LED lights. They throw great light and take little power. If you have a Canadian bus you should have a BA6 heater under the belly of the bus. Any reason why you didn't run the wire under the fridge cabinet? It would be a lot more inconspicuous.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
Did anyone do a pre purchase inspection on that before you pulled the trigger?


Yes, both mechanic and appraiser. The VIN was not filed off there, I'm pretty sure on mine, it only is on the Dash plate. That is what the owner's manual says. Not sure why there seems to be variation on VIN #'s. It's odd.

My owner's manual says VIN on Left Door jamb sticker and dash plate. That's it:
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I don't think either of them picked up on the different front end, but they knew it had been rebuilt, and unless you are one of us Samba freaks, finding that M-Plate under the dash and decoding it is probably not SOP.

I'm satisfied that everything is legit and not stolen, and that the front end is a 77 donor front end grafted onto my 78.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

Marleybus wrote:
If you have a Canadian bus you should have a BA6 heater under the belly of the bus. Any reason why you didn't run the wire under the fridge cabinet? It would be a lot more inconspicuous.


Yes, I do have the heater which needs to be pulled and refurbed.

Just lazy on the wiring I guess. This is a working bus, so I'm not worried about being too anal about things. I just want to enjoy it Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

71Survivor wrote:
Marleybus wrote:
If you have a Canadian bus you should have a BA6 heater under the belly of the bus. Any reason why you didn't run the wire under the fridge cabinet? It would be a lot more inconspicuous.


Yes, I do have the heater which needs to be pulled and refurbed.

Just lazy on the wiring I guess. This is a working bus, so I'm not worried about being too anal about things. I just want to enjoy it Smile




MMMmmm BA6 - that will be a nice addition when working Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

Pulled the fresh water tank and sink yesterday:

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Don't worry, the sink is going back in once I have refurbed the City water hose & tap.

Also did a little work on my SoCal 70's style:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 1978 Deluxe Canadian Westy Reply with quote

This thing has so many red flags in my opinion. You could have quite the monster on your hands.
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