2.0 Type 4 Pushrod Tubes??

[cmonSTART]

Is it me or are these hard to find? I'm putting together a parts list for this Winter and I'm coming up somewhat dry on these. I was hoping to replace all 8 of them with new.
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'78 Bus 2.0FI
de K1IGS

[KentABQ]

Have you checked FPCEuro.com?
They have the ones similar to original, instead of those weird spring-loaded ones.

[cmonSTART]

Didn't see them there, but I found some on Rock Auto.

Weirdly I can't find them on Bus Depot where I'm making my parts list - a few others too.

Thanks Kent!
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'78 Bus 2.0FI
de K1IGS

[SGKent]

they are in valve train https://www.busdepot.com/021109335c

there are a couple weird sizes out there from early T4 heads and engines these won't fit.
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[cmonSTART]

Ah, you know why? I was searching as "Pushrod" - one word.

Well there ya go.
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'78 Bus 2.0FI
de K1IGS

[Wildthings]

Unless there is extensive rust or other damage, there isn't much reason to replace them. Of course being as you are in NH your definition of extensive rust is probably a lot different from mine.

[cmonSTART]

They're pretty rusty and beat, also removal was a bit rough on them. For the money I'll just replace them again - might as well have some shiny ones for a bit.
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'78 Bus 2.0FI
de K1IGS

[Jetfxr69]

I got a bucket full of used ones if you want OG. They will need blasting and repainting and a few may be slightly crinkled from pliers grabbing them, but your welcome to a set.

I wont ever throw them away, and its not worth my time to sell, so they’re yours if you want.
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‘77 westy Seamus
‘76 tintop Crusher
‘77 westy The Judge
‘72 tintop bastard westy Hudson

[orwell84]

[Vanagonsgoslow]

[cellobus1]

I thought all type 4 engines' PRTs had different sized seals on each end. That's why they are different colors.
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1976 unrestored daily driver Standard bus, "Stella"
formerly, 1959 Standard bus
formerly, 1973 transporter which was 4 years old when it taught me to drive

[Wildthings]

[raygreenwood]

[RONIN10]

If money is no object:

https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C31%2D109%2D335%2D021CA

Out of Stock at the moment, though.
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Andrew

Oscar: 1976 Westfalia Deluxe Camper, 2.0L FI, Manual Transaxle

[ivwshane]

[raygreenwood]

To add to what I posted earlier:....AND...its complicated....


Original Push rod tube part #: 021 109 335 A

Used:
To engine # Z 0 009 406 (1.7L 411 carbs)
To engine # W 0 057 034 (1.7L 411 injection)

Part # 021 109 335 B (larger diameter tubes)

Used:
From engine # Z 0 009 407 (1.7L carbs)
From engine # W 0 057 035 (1.7L injection)
From engine # EA 0 000 001 (1.7L injection)

Bear in mind....the Z series and early W series that used the skinny pushrod tubes were only in very early cars. You need to look at the range of head numbers as well.

The early part # PR tube 021 109 335 A was used with head number
021 101 351 F....UP TO engine Z 0 000 406 in August of 1972 when it changed to 021 109 335 B. Then from that point on the head # used with Z series carbed engines was 021 101 351 R.

Alongside this...the W engine series UP TO.... W 0 057 034 used the same early smaller PR tube with head # 022 101 351 A. From W 0 057 035 and through W 0 129 581...it used PR tube # 021 109 335 B. This was up to August of 1972.

A quick note if you do not know: Engine cases and heads listed in the 411 and 914 parts books....the part # prefix 021= carbs for both automatics and manuals for both sedans and wagons. The part # prefix 022 = fuel injection for both automatics and manuals for both sedans and wagons

I'm not going to list it all. Suffice to say that from the onset of the type 4 engine in 1968/69....IN TYPE 4 CARS... through the end of the 1973 model year right before the 1.8L started.......there were five 1.7L cylinder head part numbers...just for the 411 and early 412.

021 101 351 A
021 101 351 B
021 101 351 D
021 101 351 F
021 101 351 R

There were four engine series V, Z, W, EA, EB. Only the V, Z and early W used the skinny pushrod tubes. V and Z series were only in carbs and only in 411 and possibly some 914...and never saw the light of day here. The EA never used the skinny tubes in the US product market.

Its a mess tracking these across just the type 4 car models. Ray

[cmonSTART]

Those seem a bit overkill - wow!

I'll stick to my rockauto.com specials.
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de K1IGS

[Clatter]

Those CSP pushrod tubes send my heart all aflutter.


I think I'll buy a set, and to just hold the cool metal against my cheek.

That, and take them to bed with me every night..


The ridge/shelf to lever against at removal time?
Genius!

Available in extended length for stroker motors?
Max ID clearance for high-lift cams?
Lifetime use - never smashed in at removal time again?


I'll never be able to be happy again unless a set sleeps beside me every night!
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Bus Motor Build

What’s That Noise?!?

[cmonSTART]

[ivwshane]

I’d be more concerned with whether or not they produce a tighter fit.

When I powder coated my tubes I was sure to add extra coating where the o-rings go in hopes of making a tighter seal.
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77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
70 single cab