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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Never a battle for me and a few others with the proper tools.
This is a 2 minute job.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

insyncro wrote:
Never a battle for me and a few others with the proper tools.
This is a 2 minute job.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=410934&highlight=luxury


HAHA ....everybody knew that would be the case.... Laughing
You're supposed to think of the first 5 times you did it this is a wayback memory.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

I cut them off the first time, than dropped some coin on tools.

I offer the service of loosening and torqueing as a courtesy for those in my area, with vans and heavy equipment.

Love the sound of that 3/4" gun at 135lbs of air pressure.

Tony's tool to hold the hub from spinning is also worth every penny.
It will not break or bend Exclamation
It is found in the classifieds.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Ah, so that counterhold isn't just a one-off build. Cool. I've never seen that before.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

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Ah, so that counterhold isn't just a one-off build. Cool. I've never seen that before.


I use it to test Syncro front drivelines as well.
A super heavy duty tool.
Don't drop it on your toes Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Dylan, My search Fu is weak this morning. I looked in the classifieds and searched but it didn't pop up. If you have the link handy can you post it or give me Tony's samba name and I'll search for his stuff. Thanks. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Yeah 2 minute job, 20 minutes searching and still don't have it. Been there many times of course - that's just how it goes. I probably have a full hour in building my tool (but with a headstart cuz I built the "socket" 20 years ago). Several times I almost "recycled" the socket, thinking "I'll never need that again.:"

Have "hope" I'll never need it again, but I'm enjoying my Vanagon more these days. Cool Maybe it will help someone else? My hub-holder fits ONLY original length trailing arms though because it engages to the jackhole.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

"Rear wheel nut brace / remover" http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1812671


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

My nut woulda busted that breaker-bar. Now that it's busted loose I could use that setup. Or with a torch.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
"Rear wheel nut brace / remover" http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1812671


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Thanks! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

All four of the tools I use are posted in the linked Luxury Tool thread...along with others that make life much easier.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

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All four of the tools I use are posted in the linked Luxury Tool thread...along with others that make life much easier.


I went there but it was 26 pages long and the link posted above went directly to page 1, not the page that had that tool. I did try, it just wasn't working for me... Thanks for clueing me in on that tool again though. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Sure thing.
This topic has been covered multiple times.
Same answer each time.
And if TK was to answer....use heat from an oxy/acet torch Exclamation

Look through the Luxury Tool thread...all 26 pages, you will find very helpful tools.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

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"Rear wheel nut brace / remover" http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1812671


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My nut woulda busted that breaker-bar. Now that it's busted loose I could use that setup. Or with a torch.


Actually you would not have to put that much force on the breaker bar. You load the breaker bar up to a force that it can tolerate and then you whack the wrench with a hammer and the nut will come loose.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Good point ! That pic needs a sledge then. Cool

However...... What if (as in my case) you were planning to grease ORIGINAL bearings and try to run them another 50,000 miles. I DON'T want to hit mine with a sledge. I think the torch would be a better tool to add to that pic.

Does anyone know if a propane torch is sufficient to loosen this nut? I've been surprised in the past the big effect a little heat has in breaking a 'lock' but someone must know by now if a propane torch works here.

And so what if it takes 10 minutes longer - nobody can buy more tools in less than 10 minutes, not even if Harbor Freight is next door. Plus the socket for a 3/4" air tool might cost $85 too and how much is a compressor that big?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

<<Does anyone know if a propane torch is sufficient to loosen this nut? I've been surprised in the past the big effect a little heat has in breaking a 'lock' but someone must know by now if a propane torch works >>

Absolutely not.

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This would have had that nut off before you got done whistling Dixie.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Sodo wrote:
... Does anyone know if a propane torch is sufficient to loosen this nut? ...


Terry Kay wrote:
Absolutely not.

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This would have had that nut off before you got done whistling Dixie.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Oxy/Ace is also a must for rusted brake shoe lower pivot pins
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Sodo wrote:
Good point ! That pic needs a sledge then. Cool

However...... What if (as in my case) you were planning to grease ORIGINAL bearings and try to run them another 50,000 miles. I DON'T want to hit mine with a sledge. I think the torch would be a better tool to add to that pic.?


Any shop that has one is going to use a 3/4 or 1" impact to remove and maybe even retighten the nut. Not that much difference than hitting the wrench with a hammer.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear axle nut(s) - the battle begins Reply with quote

Heck yes it's different! Hammering around in a circle is MUCH preferable to straight DOWN.

BTW this is shade-tree, not a shop. Cool
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