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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

So.......

I had contacted BusDepot about their step asking if they knew anything about GoWesty's step for it is significantly cheaper.

Fred says he never saw a GW step so can't make comparisons.

I put GW's in my shopping cart and clicked calculate freight...... $66 to ship it!

So GW $210 + $66 = $276

BD $270 + $13 = $283

I could pick up BD's next time I go to my daughters and save $13 shipping but for the $7 price difference...... I'll have them ship it to me.
Hmm...... After I apply thesamba discount which I think is 5% .... 13.50...... BD for me shipped is $6.50 less than GW! Laughing

Busboys isn't even in the mix, I've read nothing but stories of poor shipping about them lately........

I will post a detailed review of the BD step once it arrives. Looking forward to it.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

I ordered my BusDepot side step but stumbled upon this parts drawing of a Vanagon step.

Anyone ever seen one? Curious how it works, it has a spring but does it slide or flip?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

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I'm thinking this with a white LED stip mounted under it wired to a switch that turns them on when the slider is opened.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
I ordered my BusDepot side step but stumbled upon this parts drawing of a Vanagon step.

Anyone ever seen one? Curious how it works, it has a spring but does it slide or flip?

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this is the ambulance step. it slides out and is controlled by the door itself.
if you open the door more than half way it allows it to slide out.

there is a bracket you need to mount on/through the slider which may be a deal breaker for some.

I pulled the trigger last night on the GW step.
I'm on east coast and shipping was weirdly high on it… but I had to place an order for some GW specific parts and shipping didn't get higher with the addition of the smaller pieces.

I also looked at a few more modern hide-away truckbed steps, but ultimately decided to keep it a period-correct vw accessory.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

Slakin' at work......

You're only in Virginia, I'm in Jersey, maybe someday we'll cross paths and can compare the GW and BD steps.

Off topic but.....
I really fail to grasp GW shipping prices but alas..... I am a customer of theirs at times too.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
GW $210 + $66 = $276
BD $270 + $13 = $283

Off topic but.....
I really fail to grasp GW shipping prices


Well, to ship an item from CA to NJ is going to be far costlier than going from PA to NJ, regardless of whether you're using UPS or USPS. When I listed my Cabriolet's suspension for sale, I calculated the shipping rate via UPS to Maine and it was around $60. The guy who ended up buying the suspension was in CA and the cost to ship was $40. And those dollar amounts don't include the cost of the box, the cushioning inside, the tape, and my time in carefully packing the items.

Is GW overcharging for shipping? Perhaps, but so do many other entities out there. Really off-topic: When gas prices drop, do shippers drop their rates? Nope. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

Doesn't look like those front steps will play well with late models and body cladding/front spoiler. Since I'm planning on raising my Bluestar up as part of the TDI swap, I probably will need to factor in some kind of step. I might have to fabricate my own, so that it bends around the spoiler
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
Doesn't look like those front steps will play well with late models and body cladding/front spoiler. Since I'm planning on raising my Bluestar up as part of the TDI swap, I probably will need to factor in some kind of step. I might have to fabricate my own, so that it bends around the spoiler


The standard Van without cladding has the step floor surface two inches higher than the lowest sheet metal below the door.

I'm thinking of using steel tubing if needed to space it down properly.
I'll know for sure when they arrive, they were shipped yesterday from California.
Mounting these steps will be interesting working out the structural issues.....

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

slackin' at work wrote:
djkeev wrote:
I ordered my BusDepot side step but stumbled upon this parts drawing of a Vanagon step.

Anyone ever seen one? Curious how it works, it has a spring but does it slide or flip?

[illustration]

Dave



this is the ambulance step. it slides out and is controlled by the door itself.
if you open the door more than half way it allows it to slide out.

there is a bracket you need to mount on/through the slider which may be a deal breaker for some.

I pulled the trigger last night on the GW step.
I'm on east coast and shipping was weirdly high on it… but I had to place an order for some GW specific parts and shipping didn't get higher with the addition of the smaller pieces.

I also looked at a few more modern hide-away truckbed steps, but ultimately decided to keep it a period-correct vw accessory.


Yes, factory option, not only ambulances.

I have one I never mounted in France, all powder coated.It's super sturdy and well built. The chassis frame actually has the holes where to bolt it Cool

You can buy a new one from VW Classic Parts not much more than the Go Westy step... You cannot install it on side cladding vans (unless modification of cladding).
You cannot have an extra water tank if you have that automatic step.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

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I'm thinking this with a white LED stip mounted under it wired to a switch that turns them on when the slider is opened.


This unit can be yours for a modest $15,000 ...... Complete with side step!

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1859292

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

I am the buddy Tequila is referring to. My vanagon was ordered with the side step and push bars on the front bumper. 1985. Tequila you are still welcome on this site. I bet quite a few members have chevies and worse..... FORDS!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

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Yes, factory option, not only ambulances.

I have one I never mounted in France, all powder coated.It's super sturdy and well built. The chassis frame actually has the holes where to bolt it Cool

You can buy a new one from VW Classic Parts not much more than the Go Westy step... You cannot install it on side cladding vans (unless modification of cladding).
You cannot have an extra water tank if you have that automatic step.



well shoot. there it is $345 (+shipping):
http://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/en/automatik.html


luckily I have the Eurocampers.com gray water tank installed and can't use it… or else Id be pissed. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:28 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

Well......

My steps came this morning..... a pair as advertised and I believe the real deal.
If they are knock offs, they went through a lot of trouble packaging them!

Held them up to the Van, mounting should be straight forward.
I'll hopefully do that this weekend.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

Didn't have much time today but I did a preliminary install on the "BULLY" step.

They had provided an interior strengthener bar...... Which space does not allow its use........ Too bad, it is a nice piece of cast Aluminum.....

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For this quick install, I used some large fender washers and 8mm stainless hardware......

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The factory inner step sets at an angle, sloping towards the front....... (See above photo) so when the step is fastened to the bottom of the inner step..... It also has a slope. Some shimming will be needed to balance things out.....

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The step is 10"" off the pavement, not an issue for I have a front trailer hitch which is also 10" off the pavement, a built in damage alarm!


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I am thinking of shimming the step level with the bottom door joint and to weld up the rubber step pad holes.
I will then pick up a piece of Diamond Plate and make a new inner step surface. The bottom of the factory step flexes a bit when weight is applied to the step (and I'm only a 150lb light weight! The step is rated for 300lbs.) The diamond plate will add some strengthening to the assembly.

Overall ..... I'm very pleased...... It really does make entry easier with the lower step height!

Now..... BusDepot..... Where's my sliding door step?!?!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

so got my side step mounted today.

Although Im not a big fan of the mounting (seems less than robust) it does the trick and doesn't flex too much with my 195 pound self.

here are some pics.
it doesn't stick out past my 215 tires which was a nice surprise.
as for ground clearance, it's about even with the propane tank skid plate.

it's great getting in. easy and carefree.
getting out you kind of just skip over it and go right to ground.
pretty much because it doesn't stick out that far from the edge. (see last pic).

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

Side step looks good.

Just a thought, were there any markings on the box, the step or enclosed paperwork that indicates a manufacturer?

It would be interesting to compare this information with my BusDepot step when it arrives.
You ordered yours from California and already have it and installed I ordered mine about the same time from 50 miles away and am still waiting for shipping notification.

I buy a lot from BusDepot but am always astounded at the seemingly lack of urgency when it comes to shipping product.

After 3 years of purchasing..... I've come to expect it now, its part of the BD "experience". Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Side step looks good.

Just a thought, were there any markings on the box, the step or enclosed paperwork that indicates a manufacturer?

It would be interesting to compare this information with my BusDepot step when it arrives.
You ordered yours from California and already have it and installed I ordered mine about the same time from 50 miles away and am still waiting for shipping notification.

I buy a lot from BusDepot but am always astounded at the seemingly lack of urgency when it comes to shipping product.

After 3 years of purchasing..... I've come to expect it now, its part of the BD "experience". Rolling Eyes

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it appears to be a 'NLA Vw Parts' part from the UK:
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pretty sure BD will be the same.

Wasn't going to mention that Id probably get mine from cali before you…
but figured as much and it did weigh in on my decision.
although closer, BD is the slowest to arrive. every.time.

GW used to be a crap-shoot on ship times, but shipping seems to be going better there these days.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

That bully step looks damn good Dave!

Glad to see it went on without too much trouble.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

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That bully step looks damn good Dave!

Glad to see it went on without too much trouble.


Yes I was pleased, but this is only preliminary..... There's a bit of work to do on the final assembly as I mentioned.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:56 am    Post subject: Re: Side step pics Reply with quote

FWIW....... I contacted BD about my order and has it been shipped.

Now this is one of the reasons I like BD...... They may screw up but they don't try to hide it, they own it and make good on the snafu......

Fred was all apologies and is shipping the unit refunding the shipping cost.
I told him that was not necessary at all......

They are good people, always have been in my experience.
They Just need to "tighten up" the shipping department........

Now I'm anxiously awaiting my step....... Laughing

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