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cdennisg
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 Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Definitely looks better with the rear bumper in place. And yes, they can be a bit finicky to get installed just right. The effort is worth it.
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Skim
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Hell yesss. Man bummer I didn’t see you at Prado!
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Dubskii
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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| cdennisg wrote: |
| Definitely looks better with the rear bumper in place. And yes, they can be a bit finicky to get installed just right. The effort is worth it. |
Most definitely! BTW when is your 57 rehab going to start?
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| Hell yesss. Man bummer I didn’t see you at Prado! |
Likewise. This year was a "feeling it out" camping experience for me. Next year will be a few more days for sure. I was at the show on Sunday but there was so much going on I lost focus on the everything I wanted to see/do.
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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| Dubskii wrote: |
| BTW when is your 57 rehab going to start? |
Sometime in this millennium, I swear!
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Coondog
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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| Gorgeous, that is the bumper |
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Dubskii
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Am I crazy? New wiring harness, (+) and (-) cables, re-furbished ignition and speedo, OG wiper switch and hard start relay.
Too late now!
This cobbled together mess is what I am trying to clean up. Also, a number of other areas that are gouged, spliced and held together with electrical tape.
Amazingly everything worked! I am hoping I can repeat that feat with it all being wired correctly.
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Dubskii
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Followed some advice on The Samba and cut the main harness in the middle and fished from there with the help of my youngest son. Relatively easy except for the portion that runs from the rear frame and into the engine compartment. It took me about an hour to get the harness to make that 90 degree turn through two holes. I also had to enlarge the hole in the front with a punch to get the brake light wire and sleeve to fit.
Main harness in front
Difficult 90 degree bend
Engine is all wired up. Using shrink tubing on all spade connections where necessary. Other than that it is all screw terminals for me. Still need to ground the tail lights
Hard start relay kit and starter are complete. I wrapped the fuel sending wire several times around the other wires for possible future use.
Still looks like a train wreck under there but will be cleaned up soon.
So first of many questions I am sure...The supplied connector block holes for the below connection are not large enough to fit the single or the double wires as shown.
Has anyone tried to drill the connector block holes larger or is it better to just use a large butt connector?
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western auto
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:02 am Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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| I think that hard start kit is completely unnecessary if your 12v |
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mandraks
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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| western auto wrote: |
| I think that hard start kit is completely unnecessary if your 12v |
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I would install it. I have had 12 volt buses that started much better in the winter with the hard start relais. And you simply don't run all the amperage to the ignition lock and back to the starter. Should have been like that from the factory.
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Dubskii
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:57 am Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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| western auto wrote: |
| I think that hard start kit is completely unnecessary if your 12v |
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I would install it. I have had 12 volt buses that started much better in the winter with the hard start relais. And you simply don't run all the amperage to the ignition lock and back to the starter. Should have been like that from the factory. |
I bought the kit several years ago when I was having starting issues and like Mandraks said it is a good idea and probably should have been like that from the factory.
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Dubskii
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Picked up some new screw terminal bulb holders for my speedo.
Replaced my headlight bulb holders since those disintegrated and/or broke when they were removed.
Cleaned up my headlight switch and shined up the spade connectors. I am assuming this is not year correct since it doesn't have screw terminals???
Hoping to get back to wiring this weekend.
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Dubskii
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Cleaned up the dome switch
Got the headlights wired. Not sure what is going on in the "Before" but they worked. Much cleaner in the "After" pic.
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Any ideas on how to get the red wires from the instrument harness and main harness into the fuse block? The fuse block hole is too small to accept these two wires as they come in the harnesses (ie soldered). I noticed in a few pics I searched up that these wires appeared staggered as they enter the fuse block. I would rather not butt connect them and then run a single wire into the fuse block.
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sgellis
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Any ideas on how to get the red wires from the instrument harness and main harness into the fuse block? The fuse block hole is too small to accept these two wires as they come in the harnesses (ie soldered). I noticed in a few pics I searched up that these wires appeared staggered as they enter the fuse block. I would rather not butt connect them and then run a single wire into the fuse block.
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Cut the solder off and strip the wire back. Twist the wires tight and solder. If they seem too large you can remove a few strands before soldering. You don't actually need to solder but it is better in the long run.
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Who.Me?
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:48 am Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Mine look like they have ferrules on the end and were crimped flat.
They are somewhat staggered too...
Not sure if this helps you for routing the wires to the upper connectors too. I don't have so many going through that hole behind the fuse box. It doesn't look to me like my fuse box has ever been out.
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Dubskii
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Thanks for the suggestion sgellis and Who.Me?. I believe I have a solution and will post when it is confirmed.
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Mine look like they have ferrules on the end and were crimped flat.
They are somewhat staggered too...
Not sure if this helps you for routing the wires to the upper connectors too. I don't have so many going through that hole behind the fuse box. It doesn't look to me like my fuse box has ever been out.
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Who.Me? The wiring on the second picture is the same to the top connectors as mine except the two outer wires are not routed through the upper hole. Or are you saying that from the factory you think VW didn't route the two outer wires through the upper hole? Either way, thanks for the pics!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:05 am Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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| Dubskii wrote: |
| ...Or are you saying that from the factory you think VW didn't route the two outer wires through the upper hole? |
Yes. I just posted that pic in case you were particularly OCD about things like that.
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Jacco Verveer
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:17 am Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Any ideas on how to get the red wires from the instrument harness and main harness into the fuse block? The fuse block hole is too small to accept these two wires as they come in the harnesses (ie soldered). I noticed in a few pics I searched up that these wires appeared staggered as they enter the fuse block. I would rather not butt connect them and then run a single wire into the fuse block.
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Cut the solder off and strip the wire back. Twist the wires tight and solder. If they seem too large you can remove a few strands before soldering. You don't actually need to solder but it is better in the long run. |
The hole was bigger in your original fuse box drill it out a little |
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Dubskii
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| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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| carbage wrote: |
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| Dubskii wrote: |
Any ideas on how to get the red wires from the instrument harness and main harness into the fuse block? The fuse block hole is too small to accept these two wires as they come in the harnesses (ie soldered). I noticed in a few pics I searched up that these wires appeared staggered as they enter the fuse block. I would rather not butt connect them and then run a single wire into the fuse block.
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Cut the solder off and strip the wire back. Twist the wires tight and solder. If they seem too large you can remove a few strands before soldering. You don't actually need to solder but it is better in the long run. |
The hole was bigger in your original fuse box drill it out a little |
Got it! Ended up cutting one soldered end and spreading the individual copper strands flatter and cutting an angled sliver from the other soldered end. I manipulated the angled soldered end a bit with some needle nose pliers and they both slide in in the fuse block. I wish I had tried the angled sliver idea prior to cutting off the entire soldered tip.
Anyway, I got lights! Headlights (high/low), turn signals, brake lights, wipers, generator, high beam, oil pressure, speedo and interior dome lights all work. And damn, that clear needle looks nice!
Next is firing her up! Fingers crossed...
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Dubskii
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: My 57 Dove Blue Kombi |
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Cleaned up tail light wiring.
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