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SomeThing Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:15 pm Post subject: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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...So I've let my poor Thing languish for too long and now the battery is dead-dead. can someone recommend a new battery to put in?
The one that's in there right now is Kirkland #12844, code 8 group size 56 -- but I can't find those specs now.
Suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks! |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2002 Posts: 22 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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Odyssey PC 1200T
--Sealed (won't leak or corrode floorboard)
--Holds charge between drives
--10-year-plus lifespan _________________ 72 Karmann Ghia
71 Westfalia Camper
72 Super Beetle
73 Thing
74 Karmann Ghia (FOR SALE) |
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GI Joe Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2005 Posts: 2013 Location: Athens, TN
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Bashr52 Samba Member

Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 5669 Location: On an island in VA
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| [email protected] wrote: |
Odyssey PC 1200T
--Sealed (won't leak or corrode floorboard)
--Holds charge between drives
--10-year-plus lifespan |
Agreed, but don't buy the Odyssey branded battery. Buy a Sears brand "Diehard Platinum". They are just re-badged Odyssey batteries at a cheaper price. |
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SomeThing Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2010 Posts: 43
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| Thanks for these suggestions. For any of them, though, I still need to know the code and group size. Are there specifics for hot cranking amps and cold cranking amps? |
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GI Joe Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2005 Posts: 2013 Location: Athens, TN
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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I realized I really didn't answer your original question...
I took a look this morning and have a pic of the label on my battery. I was certain I had a battery from Advance Auto Parts, but somehow I've actually got an Optima agm battery in there....(? My memory is really bad.....)
Anyway, here ya go! Part number is right on the label, for reference.
I'll also note that I installed the plastic terminal covers, to insulate them from any potential contact with the seat springs. Added peace of mind. _________________ '74 Thing, "Our Thing"....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...p;start=60
'71 Beetle RPU
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8080337#8080337
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SomeThing Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2010 Posts: 43
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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Very helpful. Thanks, again Joe!
Also, your Thing is clearly fancier than mine....😜 |
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mondshine Samba Member

Joined: October 27, 2006 Posts: 2819 Location: The World's Motor Capital
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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If you don't feel like using the standard Group 42 battery, here's a link to a BCI Group Chart:
https://www.batteryweb.com/bci.cfm
Good luck, Mondshine |
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Rev. Scott Samba Member

Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 770 Location: Philo, Ca.
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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Very happy with my optima "red top". I mounted it sideways, so no potential for seat spring contact...and makes jump starting OTHER cars very easy. Cheers! _________________ "I haven't seen one of those since I was shootin' at 'em!" |
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Joe 20 Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 657 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| I always use Deka batteries in all my vehicles. |
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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52701
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| A group 41 battery will give you an extra bit of cranking power and some extra reserve. Need to make sure it is evenly supported. |
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Captain Spalding Samba Member

Joined: February 19, 2005 Posts: 2519 Location: . . . in denial.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| For those of you not using the group 42 size battery, how are you holding the battery down? |
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hobie16 Samba Member

Joined: July 26, 2013 Posts: 244 Location: Maui
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| Rev. Scott wrote: |
| I mounted it sideways, so no potential for seat spring contact...and makes jump starting OTHER cars very easy. Cheers! |
I like your thinking. _________________ Don't be fooled by appearances. In Hawaii, some of the most powerful people look like bums and stuntmen.
--- Matt King
If anything’s going to happen, it’s going to happen out there.
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Rev. Scott Samba Member

Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 770 Location: Philo, Ca.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| Captain Spalding wrote: |
| For those of you not using the group 42 size battery, how are you holding the battery down? |
I'm not so savvy with the picture posting, but I recall a post of mine regarding rear seat retention...you posted a picture of zip ties. Would really love to return the favour! I use a bungee strap to hold my battery is relative position. _________________ "I haven't seen one of those since I was shootin' at 'em!" |
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Captain Spalding Samba Member

Joined: February 19, 2005 Posts: 2519 Location: . . . in denial.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| Rev. Scott wrote: |
| Captain Spalding wrote: |
| For those of you not using the group 42 size battery, how are you holding the battery down? |
I'm not so savvy with the picture posting, but I recall a post of mine regarding rear seat retention...you posted a picture of zip ties. Would really love to return the favour! I use a bungee strap to hold my battery is relative position. |
Thanks for the reply. What are you hooking the bungee to? |
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Rev. Scott Samba Member

Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 770 Location: Philo, Ca.
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| Captain Spalding wrote: |
| Rev. Scott wrote: |
| Captain Spalding wrote: |
| For those of you not using the group 42 size battery, how are you holding the battery down? |
I'm not so savvy with the picture posting, but I recall a post of mine regarding rear seat retention...you posted a picture of zip ties. Would really love to return the favour! I use a bungee strap to hold my battery is relative position. |
Thanks for the reply. What are you hooking the bungee to? |
Not really sure...funny. One end is attached to something back there, and I just hook the loose end onto the fixed end (if that makes sense), and I do have a small block of 4x4 to prevent side shifting, and a ribbed rubber mat underneath for added traction/retention. I should really step up my photo upload skills here...but this site does not make it easy. I'll see what I can do... _________________ "I haven't seen one of those since I was shootin' at 'em!" |
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SomeThing Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2010 Posts: 43
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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Thanks for your suggestions, everyone! I ended up with a standard battery and the Thing is once again operational. Didn't think to mount it sideways but that's a great idea!
Now I just need to figure out why the horn honks every time I turn the steering wheel to the right.... |
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Ron Domeck Samba Member

Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1466 Location: louisville Ky
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| Horn, try moving the steering column down. 2 bolts at top and push down to put more space between the wheel and the column. |
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GI Joe Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2005 Posts: 2013 Location: Athens, TN
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| SomeThing wrote: |
| Thanks for your suggestions, everyone! I ended up with a standard battery and the Thing is once again operational. Didn't think to mount it sideways but that's a great idea!.. |
Glad to hear you're back in service!
I've got to warm against laying a "standard" (lead acid) battery on its side though.... They're not made for that and you will have problems(leakage, corrosion, dead battery, etc...)
Rev. Scott made his comment on his Optima battery, which is an AGM battery... They can be mounted any which way...
 _________________ '74 Thing, "Our Thing"....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...p;start=60
'71 Beetle RPU
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8080337#8080337
www.NLEOMF.com
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Wildthings Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Which modern battery for 1973 Thing? |
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| At one point I ran the side terminal equivalent of a Group 27 battery in my T-181. This gave a nice large battery without having the problem of the seat springs shorting against the positive post. |
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