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oscarsnapkin
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 Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:04 pm Post subject: New Auxiliary Air Regulators from BusDepot |
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Has anyone purchased/used one of the new AARs that are available from Bus Depot? They run $99.95 and are described as "brand new units that had been rebranded for use by another manufacturer that used the same fuel injection system at the time." I don't mind spending the hundred bucks if I know it's going to work and be of fairly decent quality. Not to mention that I'm hesitant on buying a used one from the ads since I have no way of knowing how well a used piece will work. I tried adjusting mine awhile back as per Colin's instruction on his website, but it did me no good. I think the little screw is stripped. I appreciate anyone's opinions. Thanks.
Here's a link to the BusDepot listing:
http://www.busdepot.com/049133453-42
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jtauxe 
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: New Auxiliary Air Regulators from BusDepot |
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Looks like the real McCoy. Call them up and ask about it. Then let us know what you learned.
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: New Auxiliary Air Regulators from BusDepot |
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Many of the non European efI cars used the same parts.....reD that as Japanese mainly. Some parts were Japanese built under license. ..some were Bosch built with no name.
Its a simple part. If it works it works
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aeromech
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: New Auxiliary Air Regulators from BusDepot |
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At this point I think there are several used ones available for a lot less than $100. Like has been said, it's a pretty simple part. Easy to clean. Easy to test. Easy to adjust. Save yourself $70 and use that money somewhere else on your bus.
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: New Auxiliary Air Regulators from BusDepot |
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| aeromech wrote: |
| At this point I think there are several used ones available for a lot less than $100. Like has been said, it's a pretty simple part. Easy to clean. Easy to test. Easy to adjust. Save yourself $70 and use that money somewhere else on your bus. |
Yes and no. I have buckets of old used ones....literally. They don't last forever. With age and heat cycles the bi-metallic strip unit no longer twists as far. Same issue as the bi-metallic choke coil in a carb.
Many of thek no longer have the ability ro close all the way with age. I have bought too many used ones over the eons that ended up to be worthless.
Get a new one when you can. Ray |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: New Auxiliary Air Regulators from BusDepot |
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| raygreenwood wrote: |
Yes and no. I have buckets of old used ones....literally. They don't last forever. With age and heat cycles the bi-metallic strip unit no longer twists as far. Same issue as the bi-metallic choke coil in a carb. |
Don't throw them out! We can use them on buses here in our lovely 86* "winter." Our temp swings aren't as demanding as a climate that gets all four seasons, so our AARs can be lazy and still function.
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:45 am Post subject: Re: New Auxiliary Air Regulators from BusDepot |
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| raygreenwood wrote: |
Yes and no. I have buckets of old used ones....literally. They don't last forever. With age and heat cycles the bi-metallic strip unit no longer twists as far. Same issue as the bi-metallic choke coil in a carb. |
Don't throw them out! We can use them on buses here in our lovely 86* "winter." Our temp swings aren't as demanding as a climate that gets all four seasons, so our AARs can be lazy and still function.
Robbie |
No....really you cant. Most if not all of the ones I have in the bucket I have kept just for hard parts in case they were needed.
None of them will close at all.....or hardly at all.....even when the mechanical mechanism is smooth. Of those that have resistance or proper resistance ....the bi-metal part is either so far off in temp range or cannot twist at all. This is usually due to fatigue or delamination.
This is why I am pointing out.....if you are buying these used.....make sure they function.
I have kept these because I acquired most of them from junkyards in the pre-internet days....when finding correct parts like this was a long hard trip with few and far between parts.
I started looking at and working on ways to rebuild the bi-metallic element.......which is why I saved these dead parts.....and will continue.
Anyway.....the 411/412 cars....does not use the same style of AAR as the bus. Ours uses the round electric single wire unit that some late type 3 has. And.....those I was eventually able to rebuild the bi-metallic element in.
But....if you have the right mounting bracket.....I found.....I can use the same AARs as a bus....except the calibration of some of them sucks for a 411/412.
Its worthwhile to buy a new one....and keep a decent old one for a spare as long as they last.
There are enough cars that used this shape and style of AAR.....that at some point ....someone will likely start rebuilding or repopping them for watercooled cars.....for ugly money.....but they will be available. Ray |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:39 am Post subject: Re: New Auxiliary Air Regulators from BusDepot |
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| raygreenwood wrote: |
Many of the non European efI cars used the same parts.....reD that as Japanese mainly. Some parts were Japanese built under license. ..some were Bosch built with no name.
Its a simple part. If it works it works
Ray |
Ha! No kidding! But some European car makers too. I once had a Peugeot 504 in at a shop I was working at. All the FI components said Lucas on them but were nothing more than Bosch components with Lucas stickers applied to them. (thank goodness.) you could peel the Lucas sticker back and it would say Bosch underneath it. 
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:09 am Post subject: Re: New Auxiliary Air Regulators from BusDepot |
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| sodbuster wrote: |
| raygreenwood wrote: |
Many of the non European efI cars used the same parts.....reD that as Japanese mainly. Some parts were Japanese built under license. ..some were Bosch built with no name.
Its a simple part. If it works it works
Ray |
Ha! No kidding! But some European car makers too. I once had a Peugeot 504 in at a shop I was working at. All the FI components said Lucas on them but were nothing more than Bosch components with Lucas stickers applied to them. (thank goodness.) you could peel the Lucas sticker back and it would say Bosch underneath it.
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Yes....thats the kind of combo that is the reason why the French drink wine during daylight hours......a French car with Lucas electrical parts.
Those Peugeot's must have large trunks to carry around jars of "replacement smoke" for the Lucas relays.
http://www.lrfaq.org/series/eBAY_NOS_Lucas_electrical_harness_replacement_smoke.pdf
The Q&A and description and testimonials in the one above is just priceless!
http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm
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