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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

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if you are confident there never was one there don't worry about it.

Nice work!, and your welds are getting better and better, practice makes perfect (and a few hours with the grinder inspires you to improve as well Wink )


I did not see one when I cut it out. With all the repairs there is going to be a whole lot of strengthening done Wink

I am going to school now for autobody and refinishing so I had a lot more practice and it also gave me the confidence to really dig in. I am working with a talented body man so the bus is in a shop with TOOLS. Makes a world of difference.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

Ha , I am 100% Polish. In Chicago since 2000. Have European car repair shop in Evanston
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

Started the cargo floor area by removing the top hat support and rear outriggers. Although a few of the floor supports need replacement, the gear shift guide tube will remain in because it's a great reference for fitting the new supports. Also cutting the supports at a diagonal gives much better access to then reweld them once they are fitted


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The new support was then clamped to a scale, fitted and tacked.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

Your pictures on page 5 shows the remains of a middle sill.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

Worked on removing th second top hat support along with the jacking points. I was originally going to patch the crossmember in an area it rusted through but it turns out the inside is covered with surface rust. The PO filled the heater duct shut. I'm thinking that could be removed as well since I am doing a Subaru conversion. Perhaps it will free up space under there.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

Last of the floor supports, outriggers. cross members, and jacking points are in.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

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The jacking points from Wolfburgs west don't hold the inner sill up so well. It seems like they will need some adjusting. Im also a but confused with how the inner sill, middle sill, front jacking point, floor and b pillar all come together.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

Haven't posted in a while. Let me know if you're still following. Most of my progress gets posted on a local bus group in Wisconsin.

I wasn't happy with the jacking point from WW so I drilled out their welds and welded it back in right

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welded jacking point to the outrigger

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fitting inner sill

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middle sill on drivers side

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C pillar fabication
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frame patch
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Seat belt strengthener

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Fit floors and marked my holes! Prepare for hours of drilling

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I scuffed and epoxied the floors while there were out!!!


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Burn them in

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Time to move to the front

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:24 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

That floor looks slick! keep it coming.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:41 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

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Any tips on removing the handbrake lever pin under the floor? [/quote]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

Looking good!

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[pic]Any tips on removing the handbrake lever pin under the floor?
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From the split bus forum: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=539849&highlight=brake+lever
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
Looking https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=539849&highlight=brake+lever


I will try to avoid cutting but won’t waste my time if it’s stubborn.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

Keep it up... You're doing good work!

And thanks for sharing your progress, its fun to watch.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

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Removed the steering wheel and the the cab floor

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So I have an original rust free dog leg with the a pillar and parts of the b-pillar still attached.
My bus needed work on the bottom of the pillars as well.
I’ve already fabricated parts of the inner b-pillar and want to use the curve in the original rust free price to fabricate the rest of what’s missing.
I’m thinking of trying to weld in the whole dog leg with the pillars attached and building from there. I already have it pretty close. If it fails I will have to drill out the spot welds and separate the pillars from the dog leg and weld in each piece separately but that is time consuming and a little more invasive.
Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

thanks for sharing! i’m just getting starting disassembling my 70 deluxe walkthru so I appreciate you documenting your progress.

where did your replacement cargo floor come from and how’d you like it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:50 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

If you weld it in whole like that, make sure you plan through how you will reach each point to weld. And what is your plan for rust prevention? Leaving the weld completely untouched on the back side will rust quickly. Just thoughts, I think they can likely be overcome. Good work so far.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

Spike0180 wrote:
If you weld it in whole like that, make sure you plan through how you will reach each point to weld. And what is your plan for rust prevention? Leaving the weld completely untouched on the back side will rust quickly. Just thoughts, I think they can likely be overcome. Good work so far.


After hours and hours of staring at and measuring I cut it out in a way that I will be able to access each spot to weld it in. I’m going to spray everything in epoxy before it goes in and then clean off the area where I will weld.
When I’m done I’m thinking of drilling a hole in the top of the a pillar and b pillar and running a hose down that sprays epoxy 360 degrees
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: My First Bus / 1970 / Non Walk Through / Bench Seats Reply with quote

yoyorob wrote:
thanks for sharing! i’m just getting starting disassembling my 70 deluxe walkthru so I appreciate you documenting your progress.

where did your replacement cargo floor come from and how’d you like it?


The cargo floor is from Wolfsburg west. Out of all the things I got from them I was happiest with the floors. I made some cuts into it to help with fitting it. Pm me if you have any questions or photos. Very Happy
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