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westyventures
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:16 am Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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| What about the actual chassis VIN on the outrigger under the body, passenger seat area? |
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MsTaboo
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super vw
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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| westyventures wrote: |
| What about the actual chassis VIN on the outrigger under the body, passenger seat area? |
the vin matches on the "a pillar" plate and the stamp of the outright. |
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super vw
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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Under the seat: (updated)
48 7 6004 H0 245 9A
96090R 355
HG 048 808
In that order...
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crazyvwvanman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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How about a closeup photo of that under seat plate? It seems like you read some of the letters and numbers wrong.
That last set are the ones of interest. Are you sure it isn't HG 048 808 or something? It should for sure be a G after the H.
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syncrodoka
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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| MsTaboo wrote: |
| As usual with VW there are always exceptions. |
I know.  So many markets, options, special one offs etc. I don't have any of those syncro 16 images saved(yet).
The point that I was trying to make is that our early grill style were carried through all the way to the end of production. There are square grills with square H4 bulbs but a round headlight grill past '85 in europe isn't odd like in the states. |
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super vw
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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Whoops... yeah it reads:
48 7 6004 H0 2450 9A
96090R 355
HG 048 808 |
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crazyvwvanman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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Well there you have it. The numbers so far tell me this.
24509A = single cab Syncro, 1.6TD engine, left hand drive
HG048808 = built in Nov 86 as a 1987 model, in Graz Austria
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OddN
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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| crazyvwvanman wrote: |
Well there you have it. The numbers so far tell me this.
24509A = single cab Syncro, 1.6TD engine, left hand drive
HG048808 = built in Nov 86 as a 1987 model, in Graz Austria
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Yes. That is more like it.
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westyventures
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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From http://vanagon.com/syncros/syncro16/index.html:
"the last one tells you factory tires for your model were 185 R 14 tyres if '7', 205 R 14 if '5' and finally 195 R 16 if 'A'. The optional 205 R 16 tires were encoded M 855."
Am I reading that correctly? If so the 'A' in 24509A would make it a 16"?
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super vw
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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Wow..interesting stuff.
so were is a good decode chart located that this info is found? |
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super vw
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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Wow..interesting stuff.
so were is a good decode chart located that this info is found? |
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hans j
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:38 am Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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For comparison, here is my 1989 14" plate
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super vw
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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| hans j wrote: |
For comparison, here is my 1989 14" plate
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So that shows some consistency on the tire size having listed a "7" for the 14"
and the 16" as an "A" for the last digit. |
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caravelle c
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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I have seen some 16inch plates, and all say: AA.
I think A7 is 14inch 185, A5 is 14inch 205 and AA is 16inch 195. |
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crazyvwvanman
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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From what I can tell, the first letter or number of those two is for the engine model.
Ax = DJ - (2.1 Digijet)
Cx = MV - (2.1 Digifant)
6x = DG - (1.9 Carburetor)
9x = JX - (1.6TD)
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super vw
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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Cool!
..I just got back from the 3100 mile, multi country/state extraction/salvage journey, and will be doing some digging tomorrow to see whats hiding in the locked treasure chests, from what i can spot through the fuel filler hole, there are rear trailing arms, struts, dash hidding in there, with lots of other shit/cardboard padding mixed in.
Thanks guys for your help, fun and interesting investigation on the vin codes!
I sent off for a VW birth certification on the truck today, so we will see what VW has on the books for this truck sometime soon I hope. |
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OddN
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:19 am Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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| super vw wrote: |
Cool!
..I just got back from the 3100 mile, multi country/state extraction/salvage journey, and will be doing some digging tomorrow to see whats hiding in the locked treasure chests, from what i can spot through the fuel filler hole, there are rear trailing arms, struts, dash hidding in there, with lots of other shit/cardboard padding mixed in.
Thanks guys for your help, fun and interesting investigation on the vin codes!
I sent off for a VW birth certification on the truck today, so we will see what VW has on the books for this truck sometime soon I hope. |
I hope you didnt use the VIN with "EH" from your initial post to order your Birth certificate? Because that does not originally belong to this truck...
You need to reconstruct the rest of the HG048808 VIN.
Edit: That VIN will of course give you the data of the 84 2wd "VIN-donor" And may give some more leads as to what has happened here, so maybe not a complete waste...
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OddN
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:47 am Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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Btw. Last time I sent for a birth certificate, it took almost 6 months. Hope they are a little quicker now.
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Jim Hunter
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:02 am Post subject: Re: VIN check quiz (tell me if this is a 14" or 16" Syncro) |
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Interesting thread but how about to post some pics ?
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