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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:04 am Post subject: Name that Thing |
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Was just wonder what other names Type 181's were know by around the world. I know the names The Thing, Safari, and Kubelwagen but there are surely others. |
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Deckard Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Trekker in the UK
" What the hell is that?" in the Southern USA |
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Hellnbak Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2012 Posts: 84 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Deckard wrote: |
" What the hell is that?" in the Southern USA |
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Doc*181 Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2003 Posts: 479 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Pescaccia in Italy
Camat in Indonesia _________________ Thing stuff:
http://vw181.skynetblogs.be/ |
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Semper_Dad Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 3506 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Don't believe "Kubelwagen" was ever an official name for the 181 but rather an unofficial nickname that carried over from it's ancestor the 82.
Not sure whether Kurierwagen was an official VW name either.
Technically the Trekker was a 182 but let's not split hairs.
I believe it was marketed as the "La Pescaccia". Not sure if that was an official VW name.
Safari was of course the Mexican moniker. Not sure whether that carried over further south into South America.
I believe it may have had a different name in Indonesia and the far east. _________________ Walküre Restoration Thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=737492 |
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Doc*181 Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2003 Posts: 479 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Semper_Dad wrote: |
Don't believe "Kubelwagen" was ever an official name for the 181 but rather an unofficial nickname that carried over from it's ancestor the 82.
Not sure whether Kurierwagen was an official VW name either.
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In Germany (and most european countries) the car was nameless and advertised as an "VW 181". The German army used "Kurierwagen" (=liaison vehicle) instead of the official name "VW 181". The name Kubelwagen came later and was used by the german people, but was never an official name for the VW 181. _________________ Thing stuff:
http://vw181.skynetblogs.be/ |
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Semper_Dad Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Doc*181 wrote: |
Pescaccia in Italy
Camat in Indonesia |
I believe Pescaccia translates to "Fisher" as in Fisherman
Any idea what Camat translates to? Is that some sort of a critter? _________________ Walküre Restoration Thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=737492 |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Semper_Dad wrote: |
Doc*181 wrote: |
Pescaccia in Italy
Camat in Indonesia |
I believe Pescaccia translates to "Fisher" as in Fisherman
Any idea what Camat translates to? Is that some sort of a critter? |
A quick internet search shows that Camat is some form of government official. Maybe a T-181 was the car you got when you reached that height in the government? |
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Doc*181 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Semper_Dad wrote: |
Doc*181 wrote: |
Pescaccia in Italy
Camat in Indonesia |
I believe Pescaccia translates to "Fisher" as in Fisherman
Any idea what Camat translates to? Is that some sort of a critter? |
The origin of Pescaccia has something to do with the italian words for hunting and fishing. In an early sales brochure (1970), the italian text did not mention "pescaccia" but only the type name (VW 181), so pescaccia came a bit later.
The meaning of Camat, if I recall well it has something to do with Indonesian authorities. A camat was a person who worked for the Indonesian state. Camat is a name given by the idonesian people. Officialy, the VW182(!) in Indonesia were sold as "Safari" (I just found an old indonesian pricelist in my archives to confirm this). _________________ Thing stuff:
http://vw181.skynetblogs.be/ |
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jjrannauro Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2011 Posts: 217 Location: MEXICO
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Semper_Dad wrote: |
Don't believe "Kubelwagen" was ever an official name for the 181 but rather an unofficial nickname that carried over from it's ancestor the 82.
Not sure whether Kurierwagen was an official VW name either.
Technically the Trekker was a 182 but let's not split hairs.
I believe it was marketed as the "La Pescaccia". Not sure if that was an official VW name.
Safari was of course the Mexican moniker. Not sure whether that carried over further south into South America.
I believe it may have had a different name in Indonesia and the far east.
In Mexico it was called 'Safari' and it was intended to be used everywhere because the word is the same in different languages, but Pontiac had a station-wagon in the mid 1950's named 'Safari', so Volkswagen was unable to use that name in the US market. So the decision was made to label the vehicle, 'The Thing'.
Here is a add from a Mexican magazine. It reads something like this: "VW Safari.
The Serious one more fun"
At the bottom it says: " Few things in life work as well as a Volkswagen"
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A District (Indonesian: Kecamatan) is an area within a regency or city. The head of a District is known as a "Camat"'. Camats are civil servants, responsible to the regent (for regency) or to the mayor (for city). The 182 was the official car for these people.
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el_safari Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2005 Posts: 375 Location: Nouvelle Aquitaine,France
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:45 am Post subject: |
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In Germany they use a lot the word Kübel
In France : kubel .... |
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Deckard Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Funny that the Italian slogan translates as "it's a sure THING" |
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77kafer Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:43 am Post subject: |
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So the North American Things were the only ones sold with the elephant foot tail-lights?
VW has some strange ideas, the 98 NewBeetle could not be sold in Germany because the side marker lights weren't added until 99.
And the MK4 Jetta wagons (built in Germany) came to the US with all red tail lenses, and the MK4 Jetta sedans (built in Mexico) used amber or clear rear turn signal lenses. ??? _________________ Supposed to be 77käfer, but there are no umlauts on an american keyboard
Overheard on 27 June 07, one lady to another when they saw my Harli in a parking lot at West Point, "maybe he found it on the clearance aisle at the Volkswagen dealer" |
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Semper_Dad Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:57 am Post subject: |
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77kafer wrote: |
VW has some strange ideas, |
Don't think VW has anything to do with it but rather each and every country's DOT requirements. I think VW would be happy having a single design. _________________ Walküre Restoration Thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=737492 |
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jjrannauro Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2011 Posts: 217 Location: MEXICO
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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jjrannauro wrote: |
Semper_Dad wrote: |
Don't believe "Kubelwagen" was ever an official name for the 181 but rather an unofficial nickname that carried over from it's ancestor the 82.
Not sure whether Kurierwagen was an official VW name either.
Technically the Trekker was a 182 but let's not split hairs.
I believe it was marketed as the "La Pescaccia". Not sure if that was an official VW name.
Safari was of course the Mexican moniker. Not sure whether that carried over further south into South America.
I believe it may have had a different name in Indonesia and the far east.
In Mexico it was called 'Safari' and the name was intended to be used everywhere because the word is the same in different languages, but Pontiac had a station-wagon in the mid 1950's named 'Safari', so Volkswagen was unable to use that name in the US market. So the decision was made to label the vehicle, 'The Thing'.
Here is an add from a Mexican magazine. It reads something like this: "VW Safari.
The Serious one more fun"
At the bottom it says: " Few things in life work as well as a Volkswagen"
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A District (Indonesian: Kecamatan) is an area within a regency or city. The head of a District is known as a "Camat"'. Camats are civil servants, responsible to the regent (for regency) or to the mayor (for city). The 182 was the official car for these people. |
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Deckard Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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A better translation of the Mexican ad is
"The fun side of serious". |
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jjrannauro Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Deckard wrote: |
A better translation of the Mexican ad is
"The fun side of serious". |
"El lado divertido de lo serio", indeed is a good headline, and I know what you mean.
The add means (at least in Spanish) that the man in the picture and the Thing are serious, and they are more fun than everybody or everything. Greetings.
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Turk.380 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Deckard wrote: |
A better translation of the Mexican ad is
"The fun side of serious". |
so basically they're saying that the 181 is to cars what the Mullet is to hair style? i'm not sure how I feel about that.
(hi, I'm looking to buy a Thing and been lurking here) _________________ Brian W
St. Louis, MO
'64 SO-33 Hatch Top Westy | '87 Syncro Westy: Subaru EZ30D powered | 2002 VW Winnebago Vista |
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Deckard Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, but the mullet car is an El.Camino: business in the front, party in back! |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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jjrannauro wrote: |
Deckard wrote: |
A better translation of the Mexican ad is
"The fun side of serious". |
"El lado divertido de lo serio", indeed is a good headline, and I know what you mean.
The add means (at least in Spanish) that the man in the picture and the Thing are serious, and they are more fun than everybody or everything. Greetings. |
Interesting seeing a Mexican add for a T-181. When I first saw 181's in Mexico in the early '70s they were serious cars, meant to be driven hard and put away wet. Never really thought of anyone buying one just to have fun. Get supplies across las lomas to build a new fence, yes; to take the kids out to the swimming hole, no. |
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