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 Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:40 am Post subject: Parts used on early 1972 vs late 1972 T2 Bay window Bus. |
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I've never got a difinitive answer on roughly what months are considered early and late. Is there a common month 72s are considered late? I see every now and again parts referred to as late 72 or early 72.
Edit: This orginaly got posted in the Rarest of the rare thread accidentally. Looks like Tcash came to the rescue and moved all the comments to its own thread. Thank you.
If anyone has info regarding parts used in an early 72 vs late 72 please share.
This is not necessarily to take the place of the 1972 one year only thread.
Thanks folks.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| I've never got a difinitive answer on roughly what months are considered early and late. Is there a common month 72s are considered late? |
Depends on who you ask. Vanagon guys think we're all early; split guys think we're all late. A '71 owner might call it late, just like a '73 owner calls it early.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| I've never got a difinitive answer on roughly what months are considered early and late. Is there a common month 72s are considered late? |
Depends on who you ask. Vanagon guys think we're all early; split guys think we're all late. A '71 owner might call it late, just like a '73 owner calls it early.
I call it a Volkswagen and it should be enjoyed as such.
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Sorry Robbie, my question would have made more sense if I asked it in the in Project Bays on the Way thread I intended to ask it in. I hit the wrong thread some how. Don't want to get this one off the rails. It comes up every now again about parts used in early 72 and late 72. This is the correct thread.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3...21673f2eee
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| I've never got a difinitive answer on roughly what months are considered early and late. Is there a common month 72s are considered late? |
My understanding has always been that the type 1 engine powered bays (in the USA) were early and the type 4 engine powered were late.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| I've never got a difinitive answer on roughly what months are considered early and late. Is there a common month 72s are considered late? |
My understanding has always been that the type 1 engine powered bays (in the USA) were early and the type 4 engine powered were late. |
This is how I think of it too - in general. Its a late bus as it has a T4. As far as early and late 72 - I didnt know there were differences 
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| I've never got a difinitive answer on roughly what months are considered early and late. Is there a common month 72s are considered late? |
I tend to look at the front blinkers and vent shape. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| I've never got a difinitive answer on roughly what months are considered early and late. Is there a common month 72s are considered late? |
I tend to look at the front blinkers and vent shape. |
Same, to me if it has low front turn signals and the small tail lights it's an "early bay" and if the turn signals are high and or it has large tail lights, it's a "late bay".
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| I've never got a difinitive answer on roughly what months are considered early and late. Is there a common month 72s are considered late? |
Depends on who you ask. Vanagon guys think we're all early; split guys think we're all late. A '71 owner might call it late, just like a '73 owner calls it early.
I call it a Volkswagen and it should be enjoyed as such.
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Sorry Robbie, my question would have made more sense if I asked it in the in Project Bays on the Way thread I intended to ask it in. I hit the wrong thread some how. Don't want to get this one off the rails. It comes up every now again about parts used in early 72 and late 72. This is the correct thread.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3...21673f2eee |
Hold on boys. I screwed up my question in this thread. So I'm reposting my screw up again. It wasn't about early bay vs late bay. I get that. 1968-1971 type one is early bay. 1972 cross over half breed (type 4, low light, Campmobile, one year back bumper, and etc. I was only referring to early 72 vs late 72 for a reference to parts. Lots of 72 only threads but 72 year seems to have used some things from both eras. It can be confusing for hunting parts. But thanks to all responding. It's really nice of you trying to help. I pretty much only use an iPhone for this forum and my thumb gets a little crazy at times. 
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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Hold on boys. I screwed up my question in this thread. So I'm reposting my screw up again. It wasn't about early bay vs late bay. I get that. 1968-1971 type one is early bay. 1972 cross over half breed (type 4, low light, Campmobile, one year back bumper, and etc. I was only referring to early 72 vs late 72 for a reference to parts. Lots of 72 only threads but 72 year seems to have used some things from both eras. It can be confusing for hunting parts. But thanks to all responding. It's really nice of you trying to help. I pretty much only use an iPhone for this forum and my thumb gets a little crazy at times. |
I don't know for a fact about '72 parts, but I KNOW in many of the 68-69 crossover parts, (when VW was still ironing out the kinks from the Split/Bay transition,) many '68 parts were used "until they ran out." There was no chassis cutoff number for certain parts. Some made it halfway through '68, some made it halfway through '69. With the emissions laws of 1970 and the oil prices creeping up during the run up to the embargo, VW was probably pinching pennies just as they always seem to do through a product run and likely did something similar for the significant changes in '72.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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a difference in the '72 model is the engine hatch
August '71 to December '71
January '72 to July '72
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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Perhaps this discussion could be moved to another thread about '72 details and we can keep this thread for rarest of the rare stuff.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:28 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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| Whats all different? Just the brow being longer? |
Yes
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" |
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| Perhaps this discussion could be moved to another thread about '72 details and we can keep this thread for rarest of the rare stuff. |
Agreed - is there a definitive 72 thread going and if not - are there so many nuances to fill more than a page?
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Yes the 72 only thread is one. 8 pages or more
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: early or late T2 Bay window Bus T2 |
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I vote we make it official, early bays are 68-71, late bays are 73-79
'72 will just be '72. Or "the redheaded step child that kinda looks like the milkman"
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: early or late T2 Bay window Bus T2 |
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| Brian wrote: |
I vote we make it official, early bays are 68-71, late bays are 73-79
'72 will just be '72. Or "the redheaded step child that kinda looks like the milkman" |
I like it.. Now, we just need to break up the bay window forum into 1968-1971 and 72-79, FAT CHICK bays.. LMAO.. 
I know, I know.. several folks have suggested this in the past and went down in flames.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:14 am Post subject: Re: Parts used on early 1972 vs late 1972 T2 Bay window Bus. |
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Thanks for moving the thread, Tcash!
As a new owner of a fairly pristine 1972 Sportsmobile, I am now also interested in how the transition year progressed. I have little to offer in terms of knowledge about early '72 vs late '72, but can surely offer up my bus as an example.
So, if we want to look into specific things like the shape of the engine hatch and other details, I can provide one data point for VIN 2322052431 built in 10/71
I guess that makes this one fairly early. For the record, it has the narrower engine compartment bulge. Later they got wider, as I can see on my '73.
Man, that is a detail I had NEVER noticed before in all my buses.
AMA about any other details on this bus.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Parts used on early 1972 vs late 1972 T2 Bay window Bus. |
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From the sandblast under the tail lights I wonder it it has full splash pans on the the bumper corners?, or just end brackets?
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