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hazetguy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:29 pm Post subject: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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Trying to finalize some details on a March '58 Bus with a stock 36hp engine.
I need to know which accelerator cable sleeve is correct, as well as which spring is correct. Over the years when I've removed them or got them at shows, I've just tossed them in the same bin, so they have become jumbled with 40hp sleeves and springs.
If anyone has a low mileage, documented stock, or known correct set up, I'd appreciate measurements of the sleeve. A good pic or measurement of the spring would help me determine which one to use.
I know which tube is correct, so I'm set on that part.
Thanks for any help.
Sleeve:
The longer one is ~64mm in length.
The shorter one is ~55mm in length.
Spring:
Longer springs are ~140mm in length.
Shorter springs are ~109mm in length.
And as a reference, the 36hp tube is on the bottom.
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iamdonquixote Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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where did you lay those parts, on a 80's bathroom rug?
looks like the longer sleeve ( and spring ) would go with the 36 hp based upon the tube. |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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Can't answer your question definitively but I can add that I have used the e brake handle spring in the past as a substitute. It works very well in my slow drag car. _________________ Roads Scholar &
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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hazetguy wrote: |
And as a reference, the 36hp tube is on the bottom.
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I would assume the longer spring would go on the bottom one with a shorter cup dingus and the shorter spring on the top one with the longer cup dingus
assemble them till the overall assembly is the same length and that's the answer? I dunno, I'm just stalking you cuz you're cute
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campingbox Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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That's Jons signature backdrop. Looks dirtier than it usually does though. |
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VWsArent4Hippies Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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That's actually his chest that he's using as a backdrop |
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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VWsArent4Hippies wrote: |
That's actually his chest that he's using as a backdrop |
That's one nasty ass rash then. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:04 am Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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Braukuche wrote: |
That's one nasty ass rash then. |
you don't know jon then _________________
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2Pack Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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I measured the sleeve on a 40 hp engine and it is 55 mm long. This engine is stock and is original to my bus. I expect the sleeve has never been replaced, but don't really know. I'll try to get a spring measurement in the next couple of days.
*Edit*
The spring on this same engine is 131 mm long.
Photos:
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faster Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:04 am Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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I'm sure this is no help but on my January 59 which had a 36 horsepower engine in it when purchased had the following. The sleeve is 64 millimeter the spring is 125 millimeter and the tube looks to be the same as the 40 horsepower. Not the original engine but always had a 36 in it so I'm sure it could be all wrong. LOL _________________ My 59 panel plus 36hp valve covers http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/faster50/59%20panel/ |
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2Pack Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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I updated my earlier post to include the measurement of the spring and some photos.
I measured the sleeve on my other 40 hp bus. It is also 55 mm. The spring on this second engine is not original.
I feel like the 55 mm sleeve is pretty likely to be correct for both engines. The spring I'm less confident of. It seems like the spring could easily be swapped out for a longer one if someone had trouble with a sticky throttle cable (like I did myself on the second engine). _________________ Please buy my Treasure |
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hazetguy Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:52 am Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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Hey Robert and Lance, thanks for the info, most appreciated. |
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:19 am Post subject: Re: 36hp vs. 40hp Accelerator Cable Sleeves And Springs |
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I don't know if this helps at all but I can see that I posted about the spring holders in the past and I mentioned that I had a ton of the shorter ones and only 2 of the longer ones.
I was asking the same question as you - which one was 36hp.
At the time I thought the short ones were 36hp as I had tons of 36hp stuff but now I'm not sure that makes sense since maybe 40hp/1500cc holders might be more common?
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