Wierdest turn signal issue ever...

[mattlockwood]

1970 Bay...

Turn signals, hazards, work great as theyre supposed to. Actual lights are blinking and the turn signals on the dash blink together.

However, with the ignition in the 'Run' position, the blinkers work, but I get no blinkers on the dash. When I use the hazard light, same thing: actual lights are blinking, but no signals blinking on the dash..




Any ideas?
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1970 Bay Window Bus.
110 hp 6 cyl Aircooled automatic

[busdaddy]

First click on control panel at the very top left of the page, then scroll down to the bottom where it says signature line, now type the model and year of your bus in there and click apply.
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[Tcash]

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[busdaddy]

Ahhhh...., thanks for adding that, so many different signal circuits it's impossible to cover issues with a blanket fix. Start by counting the terminals on your flasher, if it's the OG one it likely has 4, if it's a replacement it's probably got 2 or 3, Kbl needs to be piggybacked on 49a if it has less than 4, or your OG 4 terminal relay has issues internally.

All this assumes your fuel gauge and idiot lights work normally.
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[mattlockwood]

So I fixed my fuel gauge issues, all idiot lights working..

Replaced my aftermarket 4 prong flasher with a new one just in case..

Same issues: blinkers and flashers work fine , just no lights on the instrument cluster while key is in "run" position. Instrument blinkers work fine in the "acc" position.,,
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1970 Bay Window Bus.
110 hp 6 cyl Aircooled automatic

[skills@eurocarsplus]

there is no "acc" position...off, on, start is how all bus switches work. do you have some sort of aftermarket switch?
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[mattlockwood]

My bad- "on" not "acc"
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1970 Bay Window Bus.
110 hp 6 cyl Aircooled automatic

[busdaddy]

So then what's the difference between "run" and "on"?
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[mattlockwood]

Sorry: wasn't clear and had it wrong:

Key out or "off": hazards are blinking and lights blinking on dash

Key in and turned at least one position to the right: hazards blinking and lights blinking on the dash

Key turned two positions to the right: hazards blink but no blinkers on dash- all idiot lights on and fuel gauge indicating fuel level.

Also- turn signals work but no lights on dash
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1970 Bay Window Bus.
110 hp 6 cyl Aircooled automatic

[kreemoweet]

Two positions to the right would be "Start". Don't know why the dash indicator lites aren't coming on, but why would you care?
Ordinarily, for the few seconds the key would be in that position, the starter is running and drawing enormous current, causing
the system voltage to drop way low. Maybe too low for the flasher relay to operate.

Still with the aftermarket flasher relay? Did you wire it up as busdaddy suggested above?
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[mattlockwood]

Oh my goodness:

Trava : hazards blink and indicate on dash

Desl: hazards blink and indicate on dash

Lig: hazards blink but do not indicate on dash. Blinkers blink but do not indicate on the dash

Partida: start position- not concerned about the lighting


I did wire the flasher as BD mentioned: basically did a one for one wire swap from OG relay to new 4 prong aftermarket one

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1970 Bay Window Bus.
110 hp 6 cyl Aircooled automatic

[busdaddy]

So the Kbl wire is piggybacked on to terminal #49a?
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[mattlockwood]

No- I wired each corresponding to its match on the aftermarket. KbL went to K1, which seemed logical..
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1970 Bay Window Bus.
110 hp 6 cyl Aircooled automatic

[Tom Powell]

We need a Spanish or Portuguese translator for the ignition switch.

I found this:
"partida ... departure (act of departing)
start (beginning point of a race)"

Not a three position OG switch: OFF, ON, START
Possibly Spanish or Portuguese switch and a wiring diagram specifically for a Mexican or Brazilian bus would be appropriate.

Aloha
tp

[Starbucket]

The new after market flasher units HAVE to have 21 Watt max bulbs F&R to work right. WolfsburgWest part # N177322 (single element) and N177372 (dbl element) $1.70 each.

[mattlockwood]

[Starbucket]

OK well try switching 49 and 49a incase you got them backwards unless you marked the wires when removing from the old flasher. 49 goes to the emergency flasher switch and 49a goes to a triple connector.

[Tcash]

[Tcash]

Follow the Green wire on E3 E-Switch #15 to the fuse box. Make sure the Green wire and the Black wire from the dash turn signal lights are connected to that fuse on the fuse box.

Good luck
Tcash

[mattlockwood]