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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:14 pm    Post subject: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

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1977 Type 2 with 2L dual carb engine

A metal scraping sound has gotten progressively worse over past few weeks (limited driving). Sound very obvious under 25 mph. Sound goes away when applying brakes.

Put bus on a jack stand spinning wheel and sound present. Pulled wheel and sprayed brake cleaner and inspected. No fix. Sound remains.

Is this a brake pad replacement, caliper replacement, or something else?

Thank you
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

should be nothing but a brake pad 'spreader' in there, held in by simple pins.
Guess would be time for a front wheel bearing inspection/repack.
Did you wiggle/rotate the hub after the wheel/tire combo was off?
It's a 30k mile inspection thing. Inner & outers four pieces.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

timvw7476 wrote:
should be nothing but a brake pad 'spreader' in there, held in by simple pins.
Guess would be time for a front wheel bearing inspection/repack.
Did you wiggle/rotate the hub after the wheel/tire combo was off?
It's a 30k mile inspection thing. Inner & outers four pieces.



No, after cleaning I put tire back on, then thought to spin it. Grinding sound occurred.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

Loose caliper mounting bolts? Loose splash shield ditto? Missing pad spreaders or pins? Loose axle nut (right side has RH thread, grease cap must be removed to check)?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

I second the wheel bearing. Check it!!!!

You certainly do not want this to happen


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

What may have happened is that one of the brake pads has jammed in the caliper and so a part of the contact area of the disc is getting rusty.

Rust is about 3x larger in volume than steel, so rust on the disc expands and hits the pads until it wears off, or it abrades the pads, leading to less pressure on the rusty area and so on, so the rusty area grows in size.

Inspect both sides of the brake disc- the area that the pads operate on should be shiny. On mine I had an issue where the inside of the brake disc only had about 50% area that was being contacted by the pad.

I could have had the brake discs skimmed but I replaced them with new, cleaned up the calipers and fitted new pads.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

Bought new calipers and pads. Installed but one pad has clearance and the other scrapes.

I’ll post pics

Any suggestions
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

Rust in the caliper or a siezed piston ?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

capkirk45 wrote:
Bought new calipers and pads. Installed but one pad has clearance and the other scrapes.

I’ll post pics

Any suggestions


Both pads should touch lightly after the brakes have been applied and released. If there is rust, the rust will need a few miles to wear off. When installing new pads on an old worn rotor, I like to knock the edge of the rotor down with an angle grinder to improve the fit of the new pads.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: ‘77 front right wheel scraping sound Reply with quote

capkirk45 wrote:
... the other scrapes. Any suggestions


Take a good close look and determine exactly what is scraping on what.
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