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wrxnofx
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 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:42 am Post subject: Oil Strainer Cover "Stuck" |
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Since this bus is still sort of new to me, I thought it might be best to remove the oil strainer to at least see if there's any sludge in it or other stuff.
I have removed the plug, but the cover is stuck on. I assume a PO used RTV or some such sealant.
Frankly, it doesn't leak so part of me is of the ilk that I should just put the plug back in and call it a day. I'm aware of the sensitivity of this plug and the damage it can cause if I tighten it too much.
Should I just leave well enough alone or should I try and get that cover off?
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jjvincent
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Strainer Cover "Stuck" |
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Two flat blade screwdrivers on opposite sides of the strainer plate.
I find it interesting that over they years (when I was a youngster) that having a strainer plate made no sense at time went on. Technology progressed and the need for those made no sense. Yet, if you do an oil change on an old school VW, the need to take that out and clean it up is not an issue today (same for flat 6 911's). Yet we feel the need to do it. |
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wrxnofx
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Strainer Cover "Stuck" |
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Two flat blade screwdrivers on opposite sides of the strainer plate.
I find it interesting that over they years (when I was a youngster) that having a strainer plate made no sense at time went on. Technology progressed and the need for those made no sense. Yet, if you do an oil change on an old school VW, the need to take that out and clean it up is not an issue today (same for flat 6 911's). Yet we feel the need to do it. |
Thanks for the tip. So, you don't think it's necessary? I genuinely don't know.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Strainer Cover "Stuck" |
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I like to do it once on a new to me vehicle, but after that regular oil and filter changes are all it needs.
You are fully aware of the torque requirements for that, right?
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wrxnofx
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Strainer Cover "Stuck" |
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Yep! 9 ft-lbs max.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Oil Strainer Cover "Stuck" |
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| jjvincent wrote: |
Two flat blade screwdrivers on opposite sides of the strainer plate.
I find it interesting that over they years (when I was a youngster) that having a strainer plate made no sense at time went on. Technology progressed and the need for those made no sense. Yet, if you do an oil change on an old school VW, the need to take that out and clean it up is not an issue today (same for flat 6 911's). Yet we feel the need to do it. |
Thanks for the tip. So, you don't think it's necessary? I genuinely don't know. |
Back in the day, oil was crap. Thus you'd see sludge there. For a flat 6 911, it was to look for the timing chain guide rails that would break off the ends and then end up at the strainer.
Today, strainer plates are gone. Even in 1983.5 for the 911SC, they eliminated it. No other car out there has them any more. There's a reason. Not necessary today. Oil is better and you have a filter. This is not some old motor without a filter yet VW decided to stick with it.
I did tons of those oil changes on 914's and we had to take that strainer plate off. I never pulled the drain plug just let the strainer plate hole do the trick (I was using a hoist and a proper oil pan). Because usually some dude rounded off the drain plug and it was not worth it going down that path. |
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wrxnofx
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:26 am Post subject: Re: Oil Strainer Cover "Stuck" |
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Coming back to this - per the advice given here, 2 screwdrivers worked great.
Bottom of the cover had a good amount of sludge but nothing catastrophic. Inside looked great.
New strainer and gaskets installed, fastener tightened to 9ft-lbs.
Glad I checked it because now I know, but I doubt I'll ever go into this area again unless the gaskets leak.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Strainer Cover "Stuck" |
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Just two reasons to do it.
1. new to you bus, as an indicator of upcoming internal issues. (metal shards)
2. Your own bus, at 800-1,200 miles post rebuild. For same reason. To see if it's shedding large metallic chunks.
Beyond the above, there's not any reason other than to check for possible inlet blockage. Which never happens. But I'm sure someone will post their unique story hereabouts. .... . |
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