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yellowvan
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 Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:27 am Post subject: Double cab rear door seal |
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Hey all, I need some help/advise from any double cab owners out there! Just got a 1970 double cab. She is great, in all her rusted beauty.
I've been trying to seal it up after a depressing trip to the car wash where pretty much every opening leaked. At that time I noticed that I could see daylight through the door gap on the rear door. It's right around the striker plate. The door is actually the one that is lined up the best and it is pretty smooth with the body too. But I can see daylight through the gap! There is a gray seal around this door and it just doesn't look thick enough to do the job right.
I can't find a seal online for this door, so maybe you guys can point me to where I can buy the right seal, or tell me what you have done to seal up this door. I thought about getting a sliding door seal and cutting it up but I have no clue how that would work. It's a rectangular shaped door which is why I thought the cargo door seal might be a good candidate. Maybe something off a completely different vehicle like an old ford van? |
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Wasted youth
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yellowvan
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Yep, been there already. Perusing doesn't have that part in stock and I read into it further and found that the fit of that seal was poor. Haven't seen any clear cut answer yet, or from anyone that's happy with their solution. I would love to head from someone that has cut up something else.
Anyone have a picture of this second botto seal on the rear door? Mine did not come with one. |
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Wasted youth
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Mine doesn't have any seals at all, long gone. I have emailed these folks this morning for availability:
http://www.customandcommercial.com/ |
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jtauxe 
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:10 am Post subject: |
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FWIW, I'm still looking, too.
By some miracle, I found an NOS crew cab door seal (or rather, a friend of a friend found it) at a swap meet in Arizona, so there's one. For the other one, I will probably have to rely on the old seal that was originally in the left side crew cab door (on the RHD double cab). But it is a bit ratty.
So, I'm still interested in finding another crew cab door seal for a bay window DC.
A year from now, it should be sorted out one way or another, as the truck will be reassembled after paint.
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1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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70Crew
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| jtauxe wrote: |
FWIW, I'm still looking, too.
A year from now, it should be sorted out one way or another, as the truck will be reassembled after paint. |
OK so your year is up.  How did you sort this out?
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jtauxe
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| 70Crew wrote: |
| jtauxe wrote: |
FWIW, I'm still looking, too.
A year from now, it should be sorted out one way or another, as the truck will be reassembled after paint. |
OK so your year is up. How did you sort this out? |
Ha ha! And touché! 
Indeed yet another year has passed with the metal work on this truck out of my control. It progresses, but slowly. All I can do at this point is be patient. But for sure, a year from now, it should be sorted out one way or another, as the truck will be reassembled after paint. 
And I have no update to the question at hand, obviously.
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"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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babysnakes
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| jtauxe wrote: |
| Indeed yet another year has passed with the metal work on this truck out of my control. |
Don't I know the feeling.  |
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70Crew
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| jtauxe wrote: |
| 70Crew wrote: |
| jtauxe wrote: |
FWIW, I'm still looking, too.
A year from now, it should be sorted out one way or another, as the truck will be reassembled after paint. |
OK so your year is up. How did you sort this out? |
Ha ha! And touché!
Indeed yet another year has passed with the metal work on this truck out of my control. It progresses, but slowly. All I can do at this point is be patient. But for sure, a year from now, it should be sorted out one way or another, as the truck will be reassembled after paint.
And I have no update to the question at hand, obviously. |
Believe me, my intention was certainly not to rub salt in any rust spots. If it makes you feel any better, I am 9 years into a 1 year restoration. I blame it all on the quest for a new 3rd door seal.... that's how this adventure got started, as I recall.
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jtauxe
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| 70Crew wrote: |
| Believe me, my intention was certainly not to rub salt in any rust spots. If it makes you feel any better, I am 9 years into a 1 year restoration. I blame it all on the quest for a new 3rd door seal.... that's how this adventure got started, as I recall. |
Sorry that my response was less than helpful, there.
So, I'm thinking... if your current seal has a gap at the latch plate, isn't that section pretty close to how the front door works? My thinking is that you could use a piece of a front door seal for that section, and glue that together.
There must be some way to cobble together a reasonable seal system for the crew cab doors using front door, sliding door, and treasure chest compartment seals. Hmm... 
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"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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70Crew
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Double cab rear door seal |
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Someone else has posted in the past that the OEM sliding door seal has the same profile as the 3rd door seal, but I've never felt like buying one to test that. Do you have a regular bus at home that you could use to compare the seal profile?
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stevo
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Double cab rear door seal |
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I removed an original door seal on my early 68 DC.
When I retrieved the new seal from stash I found the part number and looked it up. It was 211841818A. In the factory parts catalog it revealed this was for 1969-79. I wondered what could be different? The only difference I can tell from 211841818 are that the early [1968 only] seal has two indentations seen in the first photo here. I cannot imagine why unless the seal was used upside down for RHD double cabs. The NOS German seal is radical. Fit is sublime. Cost $10 on ebay.de twenty years ago. Finally had the lower section of the door repaired and painted last month, prompting me to install new rubber.
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