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Cusser
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 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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Let's face we're jealous and would really like to own it; anyone that tries to say otherwise is full of it.  |
I wouldn't want to own one like that. I'd like about 3 like that !!
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Q-Dog
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| nreslifer wrote: |
| Let's face we're jealous and would really like to own it,anyone that tries to say otherwise is full of it. |
Would I like to have such a clean car? Sure. But I am not jealous. Not even close. I hope the owner gets a good price for it.
But the reality is ... It isn't a rare car. If I paid that kind of money for a VW, it wouldn't be a 1964 Beetle. VW made over 800,000 Beetles in 1964. I don't believe anyone can make a case that justifies the price being asked. The low miles and completeness certainly do not make it worth $1,000,000.
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vwuberalles
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:06 am Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| nreslifer wrote: |
| Let's face we're jealous and would really like to own it,anyone that tries to say otherwise is full of it. |
Meh, I don't know about that. Maybe if it came with it's own garage I'd be happy to have it, but I'd rather not sacrifice the storage space for something I could never drive. I'd rather have something I could use and not feel bad about, and I don't have any interest in trailering a car to shows.
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:17 am Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| vwuberalles wrote: |
| nreslifer wrote: |
| Let's face we're jealous and would really like to own it,anyone that tries to say otherwise is full of it. |
Meh, I don't know about that. Maybe if it came with it's own garage I'd be happy to have it, but I'd rather not sacrifice the storage space for something I could never drive. I'd rather have something I could use and not feel bad about, and I don't have any interest in trailering a car to shows. |
Anyone who would buy that car and drive it would be a fool. The car is a museum piece and should be conserved and displayed. If you have a car with 5,000 miles on it then driving it occasionally wouldn't really kill the value but a car with 22 miles is a different story.
Having said that, I think $1 million is crazy. '48 Tuckers go for as much as the $3,000,000 range but there were only around 50 ever made so they just a wee bit rarer.
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neil68
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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A Facebook article posted this week says the owner has turned down a standing offer of $500,000. Classic quote from a seller...
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glutamodo 
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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Next up, I offer 5000 Centavos
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jays58s
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| A Facebook article posted this week says the owner has turned down a standing offer of $500,000. Classic quote from a seller... |
Money isn’t the root of all evil, greed is. I don’t understand the need for a useless and outrageously expensive car, but I guess people who have endless money can afford to have an expensive prop to stare at. |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| A Facebook article posted this week says the owner has turned down a standing offer of $500,000. Classic quote from a seller... |
If I had $1000 for every time I've heard that I might have $500K.
It's always some crazy amount too.
In fact I can't think of a situation where someone said that where I didn't immediately think this:
If that was true, you are a fool for not taking it.
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jays58s
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| neil68 wrote: |
| A Facebook article posted this week says the owner has turned down a standing offer of $500,000. Classic quote from a seller... |
If I had $1000 for every time I've heard that I might have $500K.
It's always some crazy amount too.
In fact I can't think of a situation where someone said that where I didn't immediately think this:
If that was true, you are a fool for not taking it. |
I literally just encountered that when chatting with a guy that had posted in the 58-67 whine section. He has a really clean pearl white ‘63 bug with super nice original interior. It needs some serious detailing, and for some reason the original engine is in a million pieces. He told me he turned down $25,000, but he was ready to sell, and he wanted that same $25,000. I politely told him that the offer was bs, and nobody in their right mind would pay $25k for a non running ‘63 hardtop. I hear stories like that all the time, and every single one ends the same, it never happens. |
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wheel607
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:29 am Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| A Facebook article posted this week says the owner has turned down a standing offer of $500,000. Classic quote from a seller... |
If I had $1000 for every time I've heard that I might have $500K.
It's always some crazy amount too.
In fact I can't think of a situation where someone said that where I didn't immediately think this:
If that was true, you are a fool for not taking it. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:35 am Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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I'll give him 1,000,000.... Pesos.
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slave1pilot
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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Money isn’t the root of all evil, greed is. . |
Correct.
The LOVE of money is the root of all evil (not just the money)
1 Timothy 6:10 King James Version (KJV)
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
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anthracitedub
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:52 am Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| I’d drive it... you never see a hurse with a tow bar on the back. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:53 am Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| neil68 wrote: |
| A Facebook article posted this week says the owner has turned down a standing offer of $500,000. Classic quote from a seller... |
If I had $1000 for every time I've heard that I might have $500K.
It's always some crazy amount too.
In fact I can't think of a situation where someone said that where I didn't immediately think this:
If that was true, you are a fool for not taking it. |
Although I do think the $500k offer sounds a little fishy, I’ve witnessed quite a few over the top offers on vehicles get turned down. Not everyone is full of shit. There are buyers that spend six figures on vehicles as frequently as some spend three figures. There are owners that DON’T need the money, and sometimes sentimental value is much greater than the monetary offer.
There was a 93 RSR Carrera that was sold through Sotheby’s last year with 10 kilometers that went for 2,016,000 pounds. With only 51 being made, this is “slightly” more rare than the Beetle, but maybe this is why the Beetle owner thinks it’s worth seven figures. I could see a collector at auction pass the $100k mark for the Beetle, but not $500k. |
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Cali_Army_Guy
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:02 am Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| I’d drive it... you never see a hurse with a tow bar on the back. |
Exactly!!
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wheel607
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:33 am Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| Some of the most "astute" collectors are registered here on The Samba and I can only think of ONE person that might pay even $100,000 for this VW. If you would pay $100,000 for this VW please say so here! Again, yes it is rare in the fact it is virtually unused, but it is still a VW. Nothing can turn this beautiful old VW into anything but an old beautiful VW. I really believe this ad is more of a stunt to raise interest or establish interest. |
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TheDon
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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I'd buy it and slam it on earlies just to rustle the jimmies of the purists.
but seriously, id like to see some photos of the heater channel to body panel welds for reference.
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glutamodo
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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I wish I had been at the whatever show this car had been at, I would have been all over it like flies on you-know-what with my camera, shooting everything I could think of. I can't imagine very many other pristine examples of "factory stock" exist than this.
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wheel607
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:53 am Post subject: Re: 1964 with 22 original miles (Black Beauty) |
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| So, its been another couple of months. This thread was started a couple of years ago. Where is the interest.(common sense) interest in this vehicle. I see it is still listed on Hemmings for 1 million dollars. There is no doubt it is outrageously fine, probably the nicest 1964 in existence, but I personally believe that its highest price level is about $100K. |
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