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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:05 pm    Post subject: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

I know this bad boy is expensive, but with the current cost of "normal" mag and aluminum cases these days, not so much.
Has no one used this case for a high performance street build?
I know that it was designed for racing, but it "seems" to have everything a bulletproof street engine would need.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

Your correct, the prices of current new cases set up for strokers at $1000, Spending another $300-$400 to have a great foundation is worth every penny to me. I paid for one already and waiting for it to be completed. I spent about $1700 or so total because I had some extra work done, and also for that price got the competition engineering drop cam gears.

Todd is a seriously nice guy, and that case has some really nice features. My guess is a lot of aircooled people are too cheap to go for it.

He has a fresh batch as we speak that he is working on, place your orders now for a sweet @ss foundation to build on:

http://precisionalloy.com/pages/tf-1.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

I kinda wish I had saved a few more months & got the TF case instead of another bubbletop case. and now Im thinken on changing to type/water box pattern....on my 2332 &2393...it's a vicious cycle with 4 wheels Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

There is no better case than the TF-1, invest in it now and have it for life. It is well proven and the cream of the crop in my opinion. I have one NOS ARPM case left that I have been hanging on to for decades so I have my diamond already, but I myself would be buying extras of the TF-1 like I did with ARPM because some day they might become unobtainium just like ARPM did.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

oldschool5er wrote:
There is no better case than the TF-1, invest in it now and have it for life. It is well proven and the cream of the crop in my opinion. I have one NOS ARPM case left that I have been hanging on to for decades so I have my diamond already, but I myself would be buying extras of the TF-1 like I did with ARPM because some day they might become unobtainium just like ARPM did.


Great minds think alike, you said it perfectly. Its so good its worth buying one now just to have for a future build.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

I wish i would have bought one too..
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

Wow...glad I asked, thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

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Wow...glad I asked, thanks!


i pesonaly had all kinds of problems with a brand new bubble top ..
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

my first bubble tophad 2 issues. the cylinders were not bores for clearance for the piston skirt at the bottom of the stroke(realy a non issue as deburing normaly gets it done...for those whoo do that stuff) and the dist drive gear didnt have enough clearance(gear hit the case) so a little work there and the rest was all good. I always realigine the oil gallys in all engines very few are right on all of them.and engines with a sloted bearing I add a trough to feed the bearings adequately about 1/2"to 3/4" .oil flow is as importaint as head flow.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

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my first bubble tophad 2 issues. the cylinders were not bores for clearance for the piston skirt at the bottom of the stroke(realy a non issue as deburing normaly gets it done...for those whoo do that stuff) and the dist drive gear didnt have enough clearance(gear hit the case) so a little work there and the rest was all good. I always realigine the oil gallys in all engines very few are right on all of them.and engines with a sloted bearing I add a trough to feed the bearings adequately about 1/2"to 3/4" .oil flow is as importaint as head flow.


Mark, I'd love to hear more about he trough...please
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

The best part is high quality materials, and the through bolts.

The wbx to air is trick, and die cast vs sand cast, but still not through bolted.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

The factory Magnesium cases are plenty strong enough for a 250 HP street or race engine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

it also has a full flow port to the left, which is great, and the option to go to 4 inch bore, with a 90 crank you could get a 2919cc engine !!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

That case just has allot going for it ...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

vwracerdave wrote:
The factory Magnesium cases are plenty strong enough for a 250 HP street or race engine.


I hear ya Dave, and agree, for me, I like the idea of getting a couple hundred thousand miles out of the case.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

and the oe cases were plenty strong for the 40,53&60 hp thats why there all DEAD. go figure.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

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and the oe cases were plenty strong for the 40,53&60 hp thats why there all DEAD. go figure.
This.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

but!!!! there great for bion fires and cheep asses.....I will have to addmit I put a nos as 21 case in my bug...my 2028. it was just a spain motor any way till everybody elses shit got in the way of me finishing my 2332&2393 both bubble toper cases. funny how that works.you help them and.. they dissapear.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

HA! good one Mark

Lets put it like this...................buying a TF1 probably IS a good investment.

For your application, a good mag case would be adequate, a good as21 case could live ALMOST forever, but when they are dead, they are dead, and not worth anything. STOCK cases weren't all perfecteither, some German AS21 cases are porous and leak oil right through the metal LOL, so, leaving the MAG cases alone, for the rest of us to hoard, might be a fine decision.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: TF-1 (Todd Francis) Precision Alloy case... Reply with quote

yup I think mine has a pourious spot, no leeks but seeps.I pulled it appart after 2 years or so to rreseal it...same as before. my aluminum cases were dry, totaly dry.
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