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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:58 am    Post subject: Dauphine Redux. Reply with quote

Hello All,


I will be convert my 57 Renault Dauphine using 69 bug pan and running gear.

I will post and document the swap.

Tony Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

Please do, there was another one that was started and it looked like it was going to be really nice but it just stalled out.

I would like to do exactly the same thing one of these days and am very interested in seeing the progress on your project.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

Hello Pondoras Box,

Thank you, yes very much inspired by Jdoisher 12/2011 build of "Dauphine Project".

I always had an interest in the Dauphines but the reliability and parts were the deciding factor in doing the swap. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

Here is the Dauphine ready to be taken to the next area for deconstruction.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

Here is the donor, 69 with front beam damage.
It has papers and have the necessary parts to start.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:09 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

The info so far,

69vw wheelbase is2400mm/94.5in(will confirm)
Dauphine 2267mm/89.3 in.

That is the reason you have to shorten it.

Taken off vw body parts today.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

Hello All,

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A couple of friends and beers and "presto"! Very Happy

Removal of the body was fairly simple but where the front beam is damage the steering box hung up the body when trying to lift it.

Did the old lift and twist and go.

I will remove the front beam this weekend and find another stripped pan for a front horn replacement.

Tony
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

Perhaps you could shorten the horn a few inches to correct the wheelbase.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

Jacks wrote:
Perhaps you could shorten the horn a few inches to correct the wheelbase.


You need 5" - I suspect it would greatly reduce the amount you can turn the front wheels before they hit the pan. Would guess you do what you do with a buggy, just cut out less.

Whats the track width difference? Just curious....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

Hello Jacks and Andk5591,

Will look at your suggestions, there is a ton of cutting and welding to do.

Making a priority list and locating parts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

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You can tell the rear left is slightly bent in. Switch front good tire for bad left rear tire.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

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Here is the bad, will have to replace front bulkhead.

I found
http://www.socalautoparts.com/product_info.php/zito-pereira-frame-head-bug-amp-ghia-complete-p-13980

I was thinking of using another pan but I feel that metal might be fatigued? Confused

Let me know what you guys thinks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: DAUPHINE REDUX. Reply with quote

You are in for a fight trying to get both ends of that pan straightened out. If you had another one, I would start with that. Keep in mind that depending on what you do, you will be shortening something and keeping everything square is very important.

I would suggest looking at som previous builds of something similar and see how they did it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: Dauphine Redux. Reply with quote

Hello ANDK5591,

Thank you for your suggesting, yup plumb lines and jigs will make the process less of a nightmare.

Have a master welder within my group, just need to give him beer after he welds up. Wink

Will keep you guys posted.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: Dauphine Redux. Reply with quote

there's a topic of someone doing the same conversion

The Dauphine Project
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=491343
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Dauphine Redux. Reply with quote

Yep, this is the one I was referring to in my earlier post.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Dauphine Redux. Reply with quote

Hello,

That was a great build and I took notes and I will cover the same process with a little more detail.


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Just got a donor motor for the project.


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I cant find the link that gives more detail about motor Rolling Eyes

Ordering front bulkhead this week.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Dauphine Redux. Reply with quote

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Got the bulkhead.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Dauphine Redux. Reply with quote

Hello All,
Will post pics of the removal and installation of bulkhead.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Dauphine Redux. Reply with quote

Hello All,

I ordered the underside of the bulkhead. I realized it would take me to long to take out the old piece from damaged bulkhead.

I was able to loosen the IRS pivots and set them aside until I can figure out how much I will have to narrow the rear end.

I will take pics of the process.

Will keep you posted.
Tony Very Happy
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