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smitty1976bus Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Due to the recent nice weather we've been having up here southern New England, I've put the fuel gauge issue on the back burner; appreciate the feedback Tcash, and will def run a separate wire when I pull the bus back into the garage(tent). I also need to figure out my hard starting, with a hot engine, problem. It seems to be getting worse too, I end up cranking, letting it sit for a second, then cranking again, and hopefully it starts, or I'll have to repeat the process. Since the TSII is working, I'm thinking it's either a de-pressurized fuel tank or the distributor (it looks really old and rusty, and didn't know you had to oil them, so when I did oil it, it was very dry, so I believe it could be failing, along with other issues it has). These are just two shots in the dark, but I'll troubleshoot them first.
Sorry for rambling, my reason for this post is to show off my new table. So, I've been searching for an original Westy table, one that swings over the seating area, like this:
Unfortunately, these tables are rare and expensive, often going for over $300 (plus shipping). So I decided to make my own. I bought about $15 worth of exhaust pipe and hardware, and used a piece of wood I had laying around:
Using the VW's original table design, I fab'd up swing arm:
Then made the mounting hardware; the bottom was more exhaust pipe and sheet metal welded together, and the top bracket was simply two exhaust clamps, and by using 2 bolts and wing nuts, one can tighten and loosen the swing motion of the table:
And I ended up with a very functional table, for around $20. Def beats spending hundreds:
This bus is coming along very nicely and I'm loving it! It's kicked my ass the past 3 years, but it's paying off now! Can't wait for the first big adventure in it, which will be in a wee while, but i have 3 weeks left to drive it before a knee surgery, so I'm going to enjoy it
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22668 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:51 am Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Put an ad in The classifieds for this at $100 and kick the parts grifters in the teeth. I'll bankroll the inventory for 10 if needed.
Well done. _________________ .ssS! |
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smitty1976bus Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Abscate Wrote:
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Put an ad in The classifieds for this at $100 and kick the parts grifters in the teeth. I'll bankroll the inventory for 10 if needed. |
Hmmm.. that's a good idea, and I do need a nice project for when I'm stuck off my feet. I'll have to practice welding a little bit more though, I wouldn't feel right about selling items with shoty welds, haha.
I also made a fun little sun shade:
Haha, kids love it.
Unfortunately, my hard starting problems have been getting worse It's near impossible to start after the engine's warmed up, hell, even after running for 5 minutes. I have a couple days left to drive it, so was hoping I could find an easy fix. I did find a couple more peices to the puzzle tho; so when attempting to start the engine when warm/hot, it just cranks over and over and over, but cranks strong. I checked all the usual culprits, the ignition components, even put new points and condensers in. Then checked fuel delivery; the tank has fuel, fuel filter clear, fuel pump turns on. Ok, so far so good. Now, since the engine cranks and cranks, I assumed I was flooding the engine, BUT, when I pulled a couple plugs, they were bone dry:
Hmm... is this normal after cranking for so long? They should be wet, right? Are the injectors even firing? Now, if I pull the TSII plug off the connection, the engine stumbles alive, but won't stay running due to ultra rich conditions. But what is causing the super lean/no fuel conditions I'm experiencing? Is it still a TSII problem? Or maybe some other injection issue, such as the resistor pack, or and AFM reading problem??? |
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smitty1976bus Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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It's been a long time since I've posted in here; been a long time since I've driven or done anything with my bus But I did do some things to upgrade it, and have been getting some nice driving in.
I never liked those strange 3 point seatbelts that come with the bus, from the factory. So put in some proper 3 point seatbelts, from an 85' Vanagon:
They work great!
Also needed some type of dome light; can't see jack when out at night, ha. Bought some cheap-o LED strips off Amazon, and strung some aboue the front seats, and along the wall behind the sink. Since my rear defroster doesn't work, I just used that switch to activate the strips:
And bingo bango, the lights work:
Only thing I don't like is that I ordered the 'blue' LED's, and not the 'white' LEDs. But they are bight as all he!!
Still can't figure out why my gas gauge isn't working. New sending unit, the wires are all good, ohms are the same at the gauge as the sending unit. Something must be messed up with the gauge itself. Oh well. I just slapped an ohm reader to the sending unit wire, and read the tank level this way:
It's not dumb if it works!
Just as I was getting the bus where I want it, something had to break... Right on time, I get a pretty big oil leak going on.. Seems to be coming from my oil cooler, so I'm assuming/hoping that it's just the gaskets. So now I'll have to pull all that crap off the front of my engine, and pull out the oil cooler, just to replace some $0.25 cent gasket. Super duper!
-Smitty
P.S. Started a new thread to help diagnose my hot starting trouble. It can be found here:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=682123&highlight= |
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popuppopdog Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2017 Posts: 80 Location: Oakhurst, CA
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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smitty1976bus wrote: |
I never liked those strange 3 point seatbelts that come with the bus, from the factory. So put in some proper 3 point seatbelts, from an 85' Vanagon:
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I never did either, not sure I like that solution, will look for other options....I would like to buy one of your head restraints, a bear bit one of mine.
Good thread and looking at a lot of things you have posted,....honestly you must have a lot of time |
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Spike0180 Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2015 Posts: 2269 Location: Detroit, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:36 am Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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popuppopdog wrote: |
smitty1976bus wrote: |
I never liked those strange 3 point seatbelts that come with the bus, from the factory. So put in some proper 3 point seatbelts, from an 85' Vanagon:
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What?! story time please. _________________ Brutis Patches Izabich: 1970 VW Transporter - 1776cc DP
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22668 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:46 am Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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I'll have to practice welding a little bit more though, I wouldn't feel right about selling items with shoty welds, haha. |
When I do a shitty weld I mark it up 25% for 'welding patina' _________________ .ssS! |
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toddb_67 Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2003 Posts: 1313 Location: Hansville, WA
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smitty1976bus Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Spike0180 wrote: |
popuppopdog wrote: |
smitty1976bus wrote: |
I never liked those strange 3 point seatbelts that come with the bus, from the factory. So put in some proper 3 point seatbelts, from an 85' Vanagon:
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What?! story time please. |
I second that! haha
Abscate wrote: |
When I do a shitty weld I mark it up 25% for 'welding patina' |
Hmm... not a bad idea
toddb_67 wrote: |
I just "binge read" your whole post. What an awesome job you did! |
Thank you! It's been about 4 years in the making, lol. Yeah, those tent garages don't do much when the temp drops. Mine is on it's last leg, I'd be amazed if it makes it through our winter. Good tip on the Meguiar's swirl remover compound! I may have to try it out. Part of me likes the defects in my paint job though, I seem to do a bit more off roading, and not caring about any knicks or scratches I get. haha. Just read through your Beetle build page too, and wow! that thing is beautiful! No greater feeling than taking a rust bucket and turning it into a work of art like that! Love it!
Now that the weather is getting cold again, it's time to take the engine apart and see where that pesky oil leak is coming from. I seem to be loosing oil at an alarming rate. Believe it to be coming from the oil cooler; it only leaks when running, so think it's coming from a cracked oil cooler gasket. Took a video of it happening:
Link
If anyone thinks the leak could be coming from somewhere else, please let me know before I take the front of the engine off
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KentABQ Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2016 Posts: 2406 Location: Albuquerque NM
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Hey Smitty...
Last month, I was sure I had an oil cooler leak too. But it turned out to be a leaking oil temp switch. It was leaking thru the electrical tab connector. And I understand it's a common problem.
Do you have a sheen of oil on top of your engine, too, heavier around the distributor and breather? If so, it may be your switch. It's easier to check than an oil cooler. _________________ -Kent-
1976 Riviera, 1.8l FI chrome yellow VAN - "Chloe"
"I must say, how can you be in a bad mood driving this vehicle full of vibrant color.
Cars of today are so bland in comparison. It's like driving a celebration!" ---WildIdea
Bus ownership via emoticons:
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22668 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Wipe all the oil off with paper on a stick, then blow some corn starch onto the cooler and bracket and see if the track comes from the cooler or the seal, so you know which part you need. _________________ .ssS! |
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smitty1976bus Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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KentPS wrote: |
Last month, I was sure I had an oil cooler leak too. But it turned out to be a leaking oil temp switch. |
Oil pressure switch, right? Wish I had an oil temp switch; someday hopefully
Just checked it out, and it looks good! Bone dry. Also checked on the distributor O-ring, since I was in the area, but that looks to be in good shape too.
Abscate wrote: |
Wipe all the oil off with paper on a stick, then blow some corn starch onto the cooler and bracket and see if the track comes from the cooler or the seal, so you know which part you need. |
Dang, I never even thought about having a busted oil cooler. Was just gonna do the gasket. But I'd be pretty bummed out if I put it all back together and found out the cooler it self needed replacing. Ha. Good tip!
Thank you to both you guys! Work smarter not harder!
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smitty1976bus Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Started work on getting towards the oil cooler... I do not enjoy this job.. ha. Piece by piece, it all came off:
Was hoping I wouldn't need to take the muffler off...but it needed to go. Once it was out of the way, the front air duct piece came off easily.
There's a lot of gunk going on in there... hope I don't have any other oil leaks.. I didn't see any other drips coming from anywhere (other than the oil cooler). Maybe it's just road grime and condensation.
Welp, time to push on! |
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smitty1976bus Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Ok, have removed the oil cooler, and am unsure on where to go from here. The gaskets look to be in good shape. They're not dried out or cracked or anything. I don't see any oil streams either, it all looks dry. The oil cooler looks like it's had better days:
I'm beginning to suspect that the oil cooler itself might be defective. Maybe it has a leak somewhere. I took out my vacuum gauge, and hooked it up to the cooler, and plugged the other hole with my finger (giggle). The dang thing holds a vacuum (let it sit for about 30 seconds, no drop in pressure... I mean rise in pressure... well, it didn't change)... So maybe it isn't the oil cooler.
I'm a little lost now. I know the oil leak is dripping off from the oil cooler, only when the engine is running. And it isn't coming from anywhere above the oil cooler (the top of it is dry, and no other oil found anywhere above). It has to be coming from somehwere on the oil cooler.... just not sure if I should spend some money on a new unit, or just try new gaskets.... |
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lil-jinx Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2013 Posts: 1109 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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I would not trust 8 in hg vacuum to detect a leak in the cooler,the cooler run 20-40 psi of oil,although it did hold the vacuum it may have sucked a little something into the hole blocking it,until you get it installed again.You should try to pressurize it and maybe submerge it to check for a leak. _________________ https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620186
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smitty1976bus Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Yeah, you're probably right lil-jinx, the pressure test probably doesn't mean anything. Since I don't trust my oil cooler, due to the corrosion on it, I decided to buy a new one.
Some times things work out extremely well, today one of those things happened to me. I happened to stumble across a Craigslist ad stating they had VW bus parts for sale. And it just so happened that they had an oil cooler.... for my size engine...in great condition.... and they lived one town over! Too good to be true, right? Somehow, it was all true! I met an awesome VW bus owner, who had the same year bus as me, same color, and all the same options, and it was in pristine shape. I won't name any names, but if you're reading this, the part worked awesome! Thank you!
Here's the working cooler vs. my rotted one:
About 3 hours of labor later, and some football watching, the engine was reassembled and buttoned up. I fired her up and waited patiently...... Looking for any dips.... The suspense was killing me, but it looks like I may have solved the oil leak issue!
Won't know for 100% certainty until I go on a nice long ride, and get that oil nice and hot. But it was a great day, got the part i needed, finished the job, it worked, met a new VW dude who is such a nice guy, saw a new bus like mine, learned some new stuff about mine (like how I might have some gas burning heater under my belly pan that I never knew I had....), and the Patriots beat the Raiders 33-8. Not a bad day at all.
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22668 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:48 am Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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Put the end of that old oil cooler underwater and apply air pressure to the inputs, I bet you get bubbles on the end. It looks like you've got accumulated dirt at that end which is usually from sticky oil.
You do want to save it if it doesn't leak..these things aren't going to get easier to find. _________________ .ssS! |
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WESTYJACK Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2017 Posts: 266 Location: LAVAL,QC CANADA
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:24 am Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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I smitty
Do you have some drawing from your sun shade you make
look nice
all your westy look nice good job
Thanks _________________ VW bus type 2 1978 transplant engine 1975 1800cc fuel injection |
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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I thought those rubber seals on the oil cooler looked egg shaped- might have been the camera- your cooler looked like it had some damage though- so Hoping for the best-- good job- did you read about putting bolts on the lower shroud instead of squeezing it round the bottom studs?- _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
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smitty1976bus Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 369 Location: Cape Cod
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: My 1978 Big Sage Green Giant Westy Build! Lots of Pictures! |
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williamM wrote: |
I thought those rubber seals on the oil cooler looked egg shaped |
I thought the same thing, almost like the cooler squished them in a strange way, when it was tightened on. All better now though
WESTYJACK wrote: |
Hi smitty
Do you have some drawing from your sun shade you make
look nice
all your westy look nice good job
Thanks |
Thanks WESTYJACK! I don't have any drawings for it unfortunately; mostly made it up as I went on. But I'll lay it out and get some measurements for ya! I'll get that over as soon as I can.
Ever since talking to the guy I bought my oil cooler from, about his gas heater, I had to find out if I had one in my bus. I took my belly pan off of my bus last night and found out that I do have one! Turns out my bus has a BA6 gas heater! Buuuuut.... it is absolutely useless The thing is more rust and mice house than actual heater.
My fingers go right through the metal.... It does sill have the sensors though
NOt sure if those are worth any thing. I took the entire unit out and got a better look:
It's just one giant mouse apartment building, not worth trying to restore. Bummer. If anyone needs any parts off it, just let me know. Also, none of the controls under the dash are there either, someone sniped them a long time ago. Oh well, I'll have to buy a newer gas burner, well, probably a propane burner.
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