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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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Good choice on the headliner....


I agree thanks. I haven't decided if I'm going to try to put it in yet. There is a shop locally that has done a lot of early Porsche and VW stuff, along with high end cars and street rods. If that doesn't pan out for some reason I might do it myself. I could probably do it just as nice or better than a shop that has never done one of these.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

Moving along back to bodywork.... I was looking more at my modified "vert" decklid, and I just wasn't happy with it. I have to remind myself that the car is getting painted black and I want the body panels to look perfect. The decklid had just too many tears and rewelds at the hinges and spring bracket to meet my standards. A total of 6 rewelds already.

I was looking at other options to give the upper supercharger pulley more clearance behind the license plate light and still needed extra vents for the extra heat. The 58-63 vert rain tray is very bulky and wasn't going to fit. The W decklid rain trays are very small, so maybe I can get those to clear, even if I have to modify them. So, I went with a repro KSR W decklid. While not everybody's taste for a square window, I like the look of vertical vents better.

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This decklid solves some problems for me, but does have one major flaw- the shape is different and there is a big gap under the back window sheet metal...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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I removed the top section from my old decklid, which was easy since half of the spot welds were broken. The bottom of the decklid can be used to save another that is rusty.

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My intitial plan was to (hopefully) be able to section the W and just drop in the repair piece and spot weld like original. This was not going to happen, too many different shapes involved.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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Clearly, we have a problem. The section needs to be longer to line up with the outside edges.

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Repair piece now cut in half
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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Lots of measuring and test fits of the lid to the car.....
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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I think I need to put a little more of a taco bend to the shape of the lid. Other than that, the quality of this piece is very very good. It is actually heavier than the original decklid and the gauge of metal is the same or close too. I would say it's the nicest repro VW panel that I've personally held.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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Yea looks quality, plus you'll save a ton of $$ putting it in yourself. What are you doing for rag material?


I'm going to reuse the grey canvas I have on the car already. It's about 14 years old, but only showing minor wear and the car has been garaged for most of the time. The advantage of using it again is that it has already shrunk/grown into its final shape so the fit is nice. Several pages back you will see that I had to slot the holes on the roof to give more adjustment. I wouldn't want to have to do that again after installing the headliner.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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I've got the fit 90% there. I bent it up slightly like a taco and the upper corners fit a lot better. I can't believe I'm saying this, but the fit is better than the German one ever did.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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Pulled the fenders off to finish welding the front apron and straighten the lip behind the lower hinge. Noticed these pinholes so I decided to just cut it open to see how bad it was. It really wasn't very corroded, so it was patched. I could only poke through with a pick a few times. With the fender out of the way it was pretty easy to straighten to folded lip.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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I've been working on door gaps, as all the other ones are pretty good now. I tried the factory way to fix a bigger gap at the top of the door. It didn't really change anything. Mad

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I added nylon washers under the rear body pad and re torqued all the bolts. I've done the other tricks, wedging paint sticks in the upper hinge, whacking the hinges with a wooden block, etc. This door always had the worst gaps, even with this new door. I'm going to have to take some measurements of the door opening. The driver side door has brand new hinges, and with little effort I was able to get the factory .16" gap on all 3 sides.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

The hinge needs closer inspection. Bowed front half or pulled away from door on back half of hinge.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

type241 wrote:
The hinge needs closer inspection. Bowed front half or pulled away from door on back half of hinge.

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Here's the lower hinge after pic. I will definitely pull the door and look at the hinges again.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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It's funny how a VW can appear to be so rust free and then you see random stuff like this. I totally forgot it was messed up, it's been many years since
I last pulled the glass.
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Finally getting rid of these once and for all....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

What were those holes for, different kind of visors?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

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What were those holes for, different kind of visors?


Yeah the late 60's style. Plus it had the small holes by the mirror where the visor snaps into a clip.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build Reply with quote

just reading through this
you are killing it, looks great
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