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ac78 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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I used the type 3 aviation sealant. It does say non hardening on the bottle. I backed them off a bit in the same torque sequence and got them to 23 ft lbs. I suppose I'll know 100% when I turn the key. Time to start dressing! _________________ 78 Westy 2.0l hydr. FI
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Get er done! |
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ac78 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Just a quick update with a before and after pic. I still have to finish up the FI and the exhaust but this should be back on the street this weekend. Bummer I had to go out of town for a few days.
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Nice going.
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ac78 Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2008 Posts: 330 Location: Nashville
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:35 am Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Hi All-
I wanted to get your opinion on the hose run from CSV to fuel rail. I believe my old bus had a rubber FI hose with a sleeve over it. This one had a metal pipe that ran to both sides which needs 2 short hoses on the rail side and CSV side for the 1/2 bank and the 3/4 bank.
My thought was to go back to single hose with sleeve(for each side) because that is what it appears to be in the Bentley and it would have 2 less connections or points of failure on each side.
Your thoughts? _________________ 78 Westy 2.0l hydr. FI
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Tcash Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:26 am Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Two less connections
10? times more hose to fail
I would stick with the metal fuel lines.
Good luck
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:27 am Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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in 78 they installed those extra metal rails. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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ac78 Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2008 Posts: 330 Location: Nashville
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:52 am Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Tcash wrote: |
Two less connections
10? times more hose to fail
I would stick with the metal fuel lines.
Good luck
Tcash |
The top one is what I took off. I paused because of the fire discussion lately. Seemed odd to have more connections than necessary.
So you are recommending putting the metal line back in Steve? _________________ 78 Westy 2.0l hydr. FI
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:43 am Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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76 and 77 used high pressure rubber hose. 78 and 79 used metal line. I really don't know why VW did that. That line has to be high pressure. I have not seen any evidence that VW suggested retro fitting those engines without the steel. Nothing like that is in my supplements book so it may have been nothing more than a cost move. Or it may have been safety minded. I don't know. I have a 77 and use high pressure line with a sheath over it. If I did a 78 I would use metal. But I do think about the difference every time I look at it. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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ac78 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:50 am Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Ok here is the "stock" setup on 3/4. All new seals, hose and clamps. It's probably not necessary but I put the gray sheething over the metal line.
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ac78 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 She's Running! |
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I had the final push today and only have the bumper to go. I was able to turn key and the bus started right up! She's incredibly noisy right now which I expected until the lifters pump up but No leaks, No Fires! Its a great day!
New Mahle Pistons, Rings and Cylinders all around. New AMC heads(out of the box) on both sides. New fuel hoses and injector seals and some paint.
Thanks for all your help!
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Hey, nice job getting her done in a timely manner! Also kudos for not buying into the forum, internet BS of the type 4 engine being some ultra complicated and hard to work on power plant unless you're a NASA engineer! I do this every time someone posts that dramatic BS about type 4 engines.
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Bravo
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Hey, nice job getting her done in a timely manner! Also kudos for not buying into the forum, internet BS of the type 4 engine being some ultra complicated and hard to work on power plant unless you're a NASA engineer! I do this every time someone posts that dramatic BS about type 4 engines.
Again, well done! |
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ac78 Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2008 Posts: 330 Location: Nashville
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: 50% leakage on #3 a month before my trip |
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Thanks guys! I'm not quite out of the woods yet. I've spent most of the day troubleshooting various things.
Alt and egr light wouldn't go out -I forgot to hook up my big red that came from the engine bay on the starter.
Rough idle/running a little rough- Better but not quite fixed. Valve adjustment, timed at 28 degrees @ 3500 rpm hose off and plugged, set idle. Vacuum is still only 13 so that's what I'm looking at.
Fuel Guage not working- haven't gotten to that yet.
Just noticed an oil leak, but from the valve cover 3/4 side. I will monitor. _________________ 78 Westy 2.0l hydr. FI
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