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train99 Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2008 Posts: 467 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject: I bought a camper today. |
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I found this camper - says built 12-74 so it's a 75 model year. It's solid and looks whole. Only rust is surface rust under a few of the windows from the seals leaking. That should scrape off. A few dents, and the laminates on the cabinets are peeling. The seats are whole, but tearing, and the dash looks good enough as it is.
It doesn't run, no batteries, and there is a missing section of the exhaust manifold. Here's some pictures:
Here's a shot of the rust:
Same rust under front window.
Peeling cabinets:
The interior:
Fuel injected motor:
Missing exhaust piece:
I've been dreaming about having a camper to get out of the desert heat, and I couldn't pass up this one. I think getting this back on the road will be a bit of work, but I'm sure it will be worth it.
It's been sitting since 2000. The tires are old, and look like car tires so they need to be replaced. The brakes work, so right now I'll focus on getting the engine running.
I'll get the manifold part - anyone in Mesa AZ got one? and drain the gas and replace all the fuel lines. Then buy a battery and see if it starts.
The guy wanted $500 for the camper, and the tow cost $90 so I'm hoping I can get it on the road for under $1500. It came with a stack of books and I'm sure you all can give me advice as I need it.
Terry
PS What size battery do I get and which side do I mount it on? There are two places to mount the battery, I assume I can get it running with just one battery for now? _________________ Wanted - Seat Bottoms with good springs for 69 bug. Don't care about upholstery. Local to Mesa AZ only. |
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Lostnfound Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2009 Posts: 236 Location: Stratford, Connecticut
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats. She looks good. Look at all the stickies at the top of the page and check out Atwells site. _________________ -Patrick- |
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VWMIKE76 Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2006 Posts: 669 Location: lynnwood, washington
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Nice score on a helsinki layout! My dream bus!!! is that a collapsable spare tire or full size? the spare should fit in the bottom of the sink cabinet when the tire is collapsed _________________ Mike
77 westy Mac n cheese aka "Mac"
71 crew cab "Damien" sold and missed lots!
78 westy "Doc". in very good hands of a fellow samba member!
79 hardtop landmark "Shaggy II" |
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Westy Steve Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2006 Posts: 1095
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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I was going to say that. The Helsinki Westfalia layouts are rare in the U.S. Don't discard any of the interior components!
Camper buses are so cool. Combines my loves of VWs, family, and camping, all in one neat package. If you are going to camp with more than 2 or 3 people, you might also start looking into getting a side tent, or at least a regular ground tent to keep you non-essentials in (fishing gear, tool kit, etc.) while you're there. Really helps alot...trust me on that.
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c4l3b Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2007 Posts: 467 Location: Springfield Missouri
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babysnakes Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2008 Posts: 7106
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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A little shabby. But for the price,NOT TOO SHABBY! Good find. Get it rollin and have fun. |
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thewalrus Big Jack
Joined: March 27, 2006 Posts: 3014 Location: Belchertown, MA
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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You West Coast guys and your "Rust" . I'm always jealous of how dry your busses are, but then I see interior picts and I'm okay again!!
EXCELLENT score though for $500!! _________________ '73 Transporter 1.7L Dual Carb
notchboy wrote: |
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60vwnewengland wrote: |
Looking forward to next weekend, weed, krunk juice, hookers, blow, hanging with bums, philly, ...the awards! |
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enjoispammy8 Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2007 Posts: 1984 Location: Long Beach, CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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helenskis are off the wall, keep that layout! _________________ 1969 Westy, 1690cc. montana red and cloud white.
1969 Standard Beetle [sold]
Watch My Movies: https://www.youtube.com/user/taylorlikesacdc
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Is there a message here? Enjoy Spammy Ate |
EZ Gruv wrote: |
Way to fuck up some little kids riding in the car next to you. |
hazetguy wrote: |
you need to be doing better drugs. |
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copellos Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: sonora ca
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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congrats on the new child.. |
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WhirledTraveller Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2008 Posts: 1399 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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A nice find. You should be able to find a used exhaust manifold without too much difficult. Although, there might be a reason somebody took it off. Take a good look at the exhaust studs, maybe one is damaged or pulled out of the head.
I think I spy a 70 Amp alternator? And the paint on the engine looks fresh, might not be that old of a rebuild. Amazingly you still have the flaps and thermostat and the engine seal looks new. You might just have a runner with a little work.
Oh, the battery goes on the passenger side. The driver side is for the "auxiliary" camper battery. Standard size for the start battery is Group 42 but almost anything will work. _________________ 1977 Westy, Automatic. Big Valve heads, CS Cam. |
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jah_B Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2008 Posts: 1147 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nice score, Congratulations!
I saw that hit Phoenix CL like two or three days ago. I thought the guy was NUTS selling it for $500. I'll tell my wife she argued herself out of a Helsinki. Sorry about that horrible AZ rust! Get a Bentley's if there isn't one in it. Get on Ratwell's site. Get some beers! Get to work! Start this week while its still under 105*
42 Series battery. Goes on the passenger side. Sounds like it's set up for an accessory battery if you can't tell. Look for the relay/switch.
$90 tow from Mesa puts you local. Welcome to the Samba. Get a battery in it and lets see what you need to get going. _________________ 1984 CABRIOLET 6spd, quaife diff, Neuspeed springs, sway bars, tie bar, short shift kit, bilstein shocks, 16X7 RSE 3pc wheels, BFG TA 205 40s
1972 tintop P30 CAMPMOBILE: M/T, 1.7L, dual kadrons, 019 diz. Sunny the S'kool Bus
You gotta know what you don't know. That's the key to wisdom. man. |
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train99 Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2008 Posts: 467 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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I checked out the ratwell site. I could and probably will spend hours in there. Thanks for the tip.
He said there was a fire in the engine which is why it was repainted. He said a pushrod tube was leaking and he replaced it and found a hole in the exhaust. His dad took the exhaust to weld it and he never got it back.
I bet I can find the exhaust part locally. Blair might have it.
The engine seal was something I looked at. The owner took care of the bus. Even when it was parked he went out and aired it out and put cardboard in the windows and around the tires.
Right now I figure replace the exhaust section, check the fuel lines to be sure they aren't leaking, put a battery in and see if I can get it to start.
If it starts, I'll replace all the fuel lines, vacuum hoses, and do a complete tune up and oil change then see if it will go through emissions. There's no signs of rats or rodents being in or around it so the wiring should be about the same as when it was parked.
If it doesn't start, I'll have to figure out what's wrong.
Terry
PS I'm in Mesa. The tow truck driver likes VW and gives good rates: $65 to pick up, and $2 a mile. I wasn't looking forward to pushing the camper out of the back yard over the large gravel, but the driver managed to get his truck in close enough to drag her right out. _________________ Wanted - Seat Bottoms with good springs for 69 bug. Don't care about upholstery. Local to Mesa AZ only. |
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1977_L63H_P27 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2006 Posts: 2345 Location: Bristol, Tennessee
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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WhirledTraveller wrote: |
... Standard size for the start battery is Group 42 but almost anything will work. |
A 24F is a cheap replacement and the poles are on the correct sides. Great deal on that camper. Congratulations!! _________________
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...and try a few chubby ones until you find one you like.
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you can't spell Volkswagen without SWAG
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iprangen Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2007 Posts: 474 Location: Centerport, NY
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Greetings from the East Coast. I'm green with envy in regards to the lack of rust on your new Bus. I don't even remember what "clean" front window sills look like.
Keep the interior stock, its the nicest layout...really!
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fstbckgt Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2009 Posts: 125 Location: AZ, CA, or HI
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:39 am Post subject: |
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get it fixed up and cruise N to flagstaff, a good reward once its up and running _________________ 1973 Deluxe Transporter Sunroof
TOP GEAR ftw |
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train99 Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2008 Posts: 467 Location: AZ
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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I got the manifold from Blair and then pulled a stud out of the head trying to put it on. I'm going to do a leak down test on the engine before I spend the time and money putting inserts in the head.
I've been going out in the mornings when it's cool and polishing it with some 3M compound and glaze. So far I've done from the vents on the passenger side around the back to the driver's door hinge.
I picked up an electric buffer my dad bought years ago, and then figured out why he never used the damn thing. It turns too fast to control it. So I'm doing it all by hand.
I also vacuumed out the cab and worked some Armour All into the dash.
The manifold studs are frustrating, but I'm making progress in other areas so I feel good about the camper.
Terry
I'm undecided about what to do with the camper top. The fiberglass is worn and the threads are peeling. I think I could sand the top and brush on a few thin coats of fiberglass. I did that years ago with a sailboat. Right now I'm doing nothing with it. _________________ Wanted - Seat Bottoms with good springs for 69 bug. Don't care about upholstery. Local to Mesa AZ only. |
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patayres Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2009 Posts: 991 Location: Bend, Orygun
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nice Helsinki! I've got a '75 Helsinki just 2 months older than yours... great interior layout. It looks like the PO cared for it decently. Change those fuel lines asap! _________________ 1975 Westfalia Helsinki - 1800 EFI w/ Pertronix
1965 Singlecab - 1600dp
yuthi'so'coro |
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David Househead Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 253 Location: Calgary Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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75 Westy's rule.
So nice to have the side bench! _________________ (o\ ! /o) |
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WhirledTraveller Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2008 Posts: 1399 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:31 am Post subject: |
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train99 wrote: |
I'm undecided about what to do with the camper top. The fiberglass is worn and the threads are peeling. I think I could sand the top and brush on a few thin coats of fiberglass. I did that years ago with a sailboat. Right now I'm doing nothing with it. |
Sorry to hear about the exhaust stud issue. Sounds like you're on the right track though.
My top is in need of freshening up also. There are a few threads on here where people just sanded lightly and rolled on Rustoleum with a foam roller. The results were impressive. I don't think you need to add more fiberglass, in fact the result could potentially be messy. _________________ 1977 Westy, Automatic. Big Valve heads, CS Cam. |
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181freak Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2004 Posts: 475 Location: York, PA
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Nice.. If you are in Mesa, and need some good pointers etc..
go see Doug and Fish @ Dougs Buggs N Bunnies in Mesa.. Good folks..
I really miss them out here in PA....
Enjoy it! _________________ 1973 Thing
96 Golf
*Looking for any Dealer Items from
MIKE GRADY VOLKSWAGEN in South Carolina!!! |
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