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matzmann
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 Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:21 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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| tarandusVDub wrote: |
| And with them removed you could see the factory cuts in the wheel arch that the flares were made to cover up. |
The wheel arches are definitely Hand made to fit the bigger tires (even bigger than 16“ stock). The hightop was of as well and the CEE coupling is not the right one for a Euro Van. Nice van, but not restored. Anyway, it looks like it is used as it should be  . |
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Microbusdeluxe 
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| Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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Answering a couple of old points brought up on this thread. So scroll up and enter the wayback machine.
As far as the placement for the Eberspacher heater controls, my '89 placed them in the rather awkward position on the right hand side front of the underseat storage unit. With the bed unfolded it's a stretch to adjust them while leaning over upside down. A friend has a factory hightop (2wd) 1991 Club Joker, the heater was one of the standard features of the upscale "Club" model, and his heater controls are indeed place high up on the wall against the sliding door. I think VW realized the awkwardness of the old placement and moved them in the latest years.
Second, as I understand it the double pane plexiglass windows were a feature of all hightop Joker 3s (the official name for a hightop). And of course you couldn't spec a rear window defroster for a plastic window. Now could you order the double panes in a poptop? Could someone retro fitted some or all of them? Who knows? But none of the window choices have anything to do with whether the vehicle is an original 16" Westy Joker.
Noting the extensive rust restoration you did on your hightop, all I can say is that you are a better man than me. I just got done spending a week digging out all the caulk that fills the gutters and was failing at one point on the front driver's side. A royal PIA, but thanks to the Swiss chemical geniuses at Sika Flex I'm high and dry and hopefully never get anywhere the level of gunk you unfortunately had to deal with.
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matzmann
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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| The double glaze windows were an option on Joker 1 and Califonias. Clubjoker 1+3, Joker 3 and Atlantic had them as standard. This was for the german market, maybe it differs for other countries. |
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Microbusdeluxe
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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Mantzman, I believe you're right about the double pane windows.
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matzmann
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matzmann
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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First time running after at least 15 years.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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| The double glaze windows were an option on Joker 1 and Califonias. Clubjoker 1+3, Joker 3 and Atlantic had them as standard. This was for the german market, maybe it differs for other countries. |
Late answer, but anyways: In France, plastic windows were not allowed at the time, so even club jokers may have been delivered with standard windows. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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First time running after at least 15 years.
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Is that this van 8 years later? Goodness, you have patience. Do you care to describe some of the highlights? I've always liked a red exterior with the caramel (what color is that?) interior.
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matzmann
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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Is that this van 8 years later? Goodness, you have patience. Do you care to describe some of the highlights? I've always liked a red exterior with the caramel (what color is that?) interior.
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Yes it is.
Lets say it was some work
More Pics in the german 16“ Forum.
https://www.ig-syncro16.com/viewtopic.php?t=826 |
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matzmann
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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First test drive to the german type aproval.
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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Incredible work
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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Just gorgeous. Amazing work.
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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It's great to see a major save. Nice job! 
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matzmann
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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I`m still doing lots of things to the Bus which costs lots of time . Last lucky find was a NOS Awning from the right year. But now I have a very special Westfalia Syncro question. How is the exhaust of the night heater routed? The Westfalia 2WD solution doesn`t work as the propshaft is it`s way?
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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Our 1989 Euro spec 16" Westy came equipped with the Eberspacher Gasoline/petrol/benzene heater. The exhaust terminates under the middle of van about 18" behind the heater unit. In some ways this is probably dangerous. Imagine parking in winter and getting 2' of snow blocking off the underside but that's how Hans & Fritz designed it. We have a carbon monoxide alarm and don't run the heater while we sleep. YMMV.
I guess you could add on an extension and run it to the side, but that would be a pretty long tube as you clearly don't want to run it to the passenger side under the sliding door so that means all the way to the driver's side. Not sure if that length of exhaust tubing would cause problems with the heater's operation.
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matzmann
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:38 am Post subject: Re: Volkswagen Westfalia Joker 16" original does this exist? |
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Our 1989 Euro spec 16" Westy came equipped with the Eberspacher Gasoline/petrol/benzene heater. The exhaust terminates under the middle of van about 18" behind the heater unit. In some ways this is probably dangerous. Imagine parking in winter and getting 2' of snow blocking off the underside but that's how Hans & Fritz designed it. We have a carbon monoxide alarm and don't run the heater while we sleep. YMMV.
I guess you could add on an extension and run it to the side, but that would be a pretty long tube as you clearly don't want to run it to the passenger side under the sliding door so that means all the way to the driver's side. Not sure if that length of exhaust tubing would cause problems with the heater's operation. |
With a long tube to the drivers side it is solved on 2WD Westis. In Germany it is not allowed to end the exhaust at the sliding door or the kitchen window, thats why it ends 1“ behind this window.
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