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skills@eurocarsplus
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those should work ok as long as they have the locating titty on it. the bay pates were stamped steel. as long as the T bolt is long enough it should work fine, as the aluminum block are a tiny bit thicker
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chabanais
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:33 am Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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The OEM ones had nuts and I'd be concerned about the strength of aftermarket:
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:56 am Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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I'd avoid those Ebay clamps, they look like cast aluminum, you need forged steel like VW used or the middle seat becomes a projectile in a crash, they may not even hold up to a few big guys sitting in the seat and leaning back.
A 76 doesn't use floor plates, the seat sits directly on the floor, the mat has slots for the bottoms of the seat tubes to go in.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:58 am Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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| I'd avoid those Ebay clamps, they look like cast aluminum, you need forged steel like VW used or the middle seat becomes a projectile in a crash, they may not even hold up to a few big guys sitting in the seat and leaning back. |
The Wolfsburg West clamps are forged, and extremely heavy. They feel and look identical to the original clamps I've used. They are also a few bucks more, but well worth it for safety.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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On my 1977 there are no plates under the seats like the 1971 had. Instead the floor is welded where the seat rails sit. Later bays do not require the plates. I don't know what year it changed. All you probably need for the 3/4 seat are 4 clamps, T-bolts washers and nuts. There are two sizes T-bolts and 2 sizes of clamps. I don't recall which the middle seat takes. If you have a full middle seat then probably 2 more.
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jtauxe
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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| asiab3 wrote: |
The Wolfsburg West clamps are forged, and extremely heavy. They feel and look identical to the original clamps I've used. They are also a few bucks more, but well worth it for safety.
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Can confirm. If you don't need or can't find originals, these WW ones will work nicely.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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| SGKent wrote: |
| ..All you probably need for the 3/4 seat are 4 clamps, T-bolts washers and nuts. There are two sizes T-bolts and 2 sizes of clamps. I don't recall which the middle seat takes. If you have a full middle seat then probably 2 more. |
3/4 seat uses 6 clamp sets, 8 for the full-width middle seat.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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| I'd avoid those Ebay clamps, they look like cast aluminum, you need forged steel like VW used or the middle seat becomes a projectile in a crash, they may not even hold up to a few big guys sitting in the seat and leaning back. |
Robbie |
Nice link, I will go for these, thanks guys |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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Hehe.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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Hehe. |
I think that is one of VDubTech's hot words...  That is how he zero'd in on it so fast.
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nathansnathan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:29 am Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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| The clamps for the rear seat are shorter than the clamps for the middle seat, so no those wouldn't work. |
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RBurn
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:30 am Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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| samwise wrote: |
| SGKent wrote: |
| ..All you probably need for the 3/4 seat are 4 clamps, T-bolts washers and nuts. There are two sizes T-bolts and 2 sizes of clamps. I don't recall which the middle seat takes. If you have a full middle seat then probably 2 more. |
3/4 seat uses 6 clamp sets, 8 for the full-width middle seat. |
Not to resurrect this thread, but im trying to figure out if 4 or 6 clamps are needed for the 3/4 middle seat in a 70 bus.
My rubber mat has 6 small cut out squares that match the three seat rails so it appears it can use 6 or 4 using the outside rails only. I know i need the plates. I see ww lists 4 needed on the middle clamps. Then i see a pict of 4 on here then i see samwise say 6 are needed.
Heres a pict, my seat is slid back here.
So whats the deal?
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jtauxe
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Why do you say "Not to resurrect this thread"? You did, and that was appropriate. No apologies necessary.
You need all 6 clamps for that seat. Longer style clamps. If you cannot find originals, Wolfsburg West makes some nice sturdy reproductions.
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stevespeirs
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:08 am Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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Can anyone vouch for the quality of this kit from ISP West?
https://www.vwispwest.com/211898825Y.html
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:49 am Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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| Yes has anyone used these with success? |
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stevespeirs
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:28 am Post subject: Re: middle seat clamp advice |
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I wasn't too impressed with the quality to be honest. Ended up buying original VW clamps in the Classifieds.
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